Basically, if Buffalo acquired Ott with the same mindset that they used for Leino, which is to force a player into a center role he is not the most comfortable with, it's pretty hilarious.

And I don't need to say **** all about Ennis just to please you. There are plenty of ways to contribute information to a thread. Ott was talked about. What's your ****ing problem?

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You and Sentium...sorry, Dakkster, are two of my favs around here so it is with respect that I interject. Despite Dak's lovingly abrasive delivery......he has a very valid point.

Ott's no more a center, then Ennis is a center or Leino is a center. Playing the position at some point in time doesn't make you a journeyman. If that's the case then Ovi is a D-man because he has played the point on the PP.

Ott's bandied about as a center because of his face off ability, no more no less. Ennis, we all agree, despite having played center is better off at wing. And Leino at center....well, we all know how thet played for Regeir.

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Start: 2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G

bomm - I hear ya... and I do acknowledge that Ott has played a lot of left wing. But if Ott doesn't play 2nd line center, who will? Personally, I think Buffalo has been too soft at that position, and Ott (when he plays center) is known as a defensively-sound center. So when I speculate that Ott will be the center so that Ennis can be offensively-creative, well... I'm trying to take the Ennis projections somewhere... I'm trying to take the Ennis discussion somewhere.

Since the conversation is about Ennis, I think it's fair that we discuss who Ennis' linemates will be. At least I made an effort in that regard to discuss that.

But anybody that just shows up and says "Ott isn't a center"... well, it doesn't add shit to the Ennis discussion - which is annoying. And for all we know Buffalo added Ott to play center. None of us really know Regeir's intention or how Ruff will use him. We are speculating. Dallas used him one way, sure. That's no lock to say that Buffalo won't use him differently.

I'm all for discussion... but...

1) It's an Ennis thread, so any discussion should try to be helpful to discussing Ennis.

2) We don't know how Buffalo will use Ott. So stating what he HAS done for another team and extrapolating it is just forecasting. Nobody can be right or wrong, so let's not act like anybody is right or wrong.

since I am the one who started the thread, let me just say that I really appreciate that the damn thing is continuing to generate discussion. Most of mine die on the vine after a couple of responses, so this is all gravy

I would like to stay on Ennis if possible as I am really interested and a little perplexed about the differing opinions about his role on the team.

First, let me say that I am not ultra familiar with the Sabres system and plans, but ALL indications look like it will be Ennis between Stafford and Foligno. I fail to see any reason at all to change such a successful unit. Ruff seemed to like it, Ennis seemed to like it, and the numbers speak for themself.

Have a look at this article. It looks like Ennis is all over being the de-facto #1 C in Buffalo.

The Ott discussion is a little irrelevant on this end - I will be shocked if it is not Ennis centering Foligno and Stafford on the second line to start and finish the season.

Thanks again - I truly always enjoy and appreciate any discussion related to players on my squad.

http://journal-register.com/sabres/x...plosive-season

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Kovalchuk, Couture, Wheeler
Parenteau, Elias, Little
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Cogliano, McDonald

Karlsson, Letang, Ehrhoff
Carle, Giordano, Martin
Hamhuis

Fleury
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Not sure I like moving Semin for Ennis.

That said I like Ennis a lot, and think he has potential to score 70-80 points a season.

Ya it came down to a few factors. When I got Semin, I had visions of a 40-40 comeback season (which still may be possible, I suppose), but things just seem to be more of the same with this guy.

If Semin had have lit up the KHL like some of his NHL counterparts, rather than being a recent healthy scratch things may have been different. That, as well as saying he isn't sure about a return to the NHL, just gave me the feeling that he is more like the guy who has continued to frustrate and disappoint owners than someone who is going to return to an elite fwd.

Ennis seems like a better horse to bet on than Semin all things considered

Guess we'll see

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G=2pts, A=1pt, Dman G=3pts, GWG=1pt, Goalie Win=3.5pts, SO=4pts, L=-1pt


Kovalchuk, Couture, Wheeler
Parenteau, Elias, Little
Desharnais, Hemsky, Zuccarello
Cogliano, McDonald

Karlsson, Letang, Ehrhoff
Carle, Giordano, Martin
Hamhuis

Fleury
Schneider

Good link.
(That's how you do it!)

That line certainly played like a #1 line over the last 30 games last year.
And they are slated by the NHL.com writer as the team's #2 line, which is reasonable too.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=638808

As our resident Sabres fan, bomm, has said... Ruff will shuffle his lines a lot though.
If I had to bet, I'd say we do see that Ennis line to start the season.
If I had to bet, I'd say that it won't be those same linemates that end the season.

To talk about another guy, the grit on that Ennis line is Marcus Foligno.
He had a very impressive 13pts in 14games... but he can't sustain that kind of scoring pace.
His 6G on 23 shots is a 26.1 SH%... not sustainable.

I don't really think it matters much who Ennis' linemates are, though I do feel his size warrants plays with one guy that has some grit (Foligno to start).

To go back to the original posts, I think most of us believe he's a 55-60pt player for the coming year, with upside of 65-75pts.

Ya looks like. Much more interesting than I thought when I posted it. Guess that what makes these boards such fun

Thanks to all - greatly appreciated

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G=2pts, A=1pt, Dman G=3pts, GWG=1pt, Goalie Win=3.5pts, SO=4pts, L=-1pt


Kovalchuk, Couture, Wheeler
Parenteau, Elias, Little
Desharnais, Hemsky, Zuccarello
Cogliano, McDonald

Karlsson, Letang, Ehrhoff
Carle, Giordano, Martin
Hamhuis

Fleury
Schneider