Currently a Carter owner. And less than thrilled with his past season. Not sure he'll return to the fantasy stud he used to be 2 and 3 years ago.

So I'm left pondering the following 3 players.

Carter - Reunited with Richards and if he's not playing with Richards, he's lineing up with Kopitar. On a Defence minded team, not bad offensive partners.

2 years removed from a stellar season below which ranked him 2nd on my team of skaters with 636 Fan Pts (Ranked 12th in the league)

pts +/- PIM ppp GW
66 27 39 17 7

Am I selling Carter short here?

or Consider

Krejci - in previous thread comparing him to Max P...I got the impression that he's probably a 60 - 65 point, soft player who may be redundant on his team considering the depth chart and C's that can over take him. But his exposure and ice time even on the 2nd line lends to his favor, and Boston is quite an offensive threat, so this Assist machine may still hold value...but for how long?

or

Ryan Callahan (personally...I'm a former owner and I found him boring but...) Has been gaining in fantasy value over the past couple years. It appears he won't see much time with the TRUE offensive threats (Nash, Richards, Gabby), but there's always potential lines could shuffel. My league doesn't count shots or hits, so some of his peripheral value has been thwarted for me, but could this 25/25 50ish PIM guy be trending up? What's his Ceiling?

Which of these Marginal talents is worth the keep...if any. Or is my best option to disregard any of them and Move Carter for an upgrade elsewhere?

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C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, (C/R)
L - Hall, Semin, Macdonald(C/L), Healtey(L/R),
R - Perry, Yakupov, Voracek, Voracek, Williams, Boyes
D - Streit, OEL, Edler, Karlsson, B. Smith, Beauchemin, Seidenberg
G - Rinne, Bryzgalov, Anderson, Bernier, Vokoun
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Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G,

(Weighted Category Points: see below).

Skaters -
(Points: G a/o A) 6
(+/-) 3
(PIM) 1
(PPP) 5
(GWG) 5

Goaltenders
(W) 15
(GA) -10
(SV) 1
(SHO) 15

I think Carter's value takes a hit playing for the Darryl Sutter Kings and I also think he takes a hit because he's been so injury prone the last couple of seasons but there's no denying the talent he has. None of those guys puts up huge amounts of PIM to swing this one way or the other so you are really looking for the top point producer and I think that's Carter, particularly with RW eligibility.

Krejci is the second best option as he'll always be productive and give you nice peripherals in this scoring system but I think the upside with Carter is a little higher. If you went Krejci I wouldn't hold it against you though. I'd bet 3 out 5 years he's the most productive of the three though never game-breakingly so.

Callahan seems irrelevant to me in this discussion. His upside maxes out around 60 and the peripherals like PPP are never going to be there in large amounts.

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I think I have to take Krejci here. He's on a good scoring team and has consistently put up over 60pts for a while now. Can't really say that for Carter and Callahan.

If SOG was a category, it would be Carter. So it's close between Carter and Krejci.

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C: Stamkos, Getzlaf, Carter
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Brown
RW: Iginla, Pavelski, Horton
D: Byfuglien, J.Johnson, Goligoski, Hedman, Hamonic
U: Mueller
G: Schneider, Hiller,
B: E. Johnson, S.Kostitsyn, Neil, Biron, Giguere
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Between these guys I'd probably go with Carter due to his dual-eligibility. Though it's close with Krejci and him and I can see Krejci outscoring Carter but not sure it'll be enough of a difference when comparing their positional values. Callahan without hits and SOG isn't anything special.

But if this is for your last keeper spot, I'd rather keep Granlund over any of those three guys.

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G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, Blks, FOW
W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
27 Man Minor Team

C- Tavares, Stepan, Hodgson, Shaw, Bjugstad
LW- Ryan, Perron, Downie, Killorn, Paajarvi
RW- Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Frattin, Rinaldo
D- Schultz, JJ, Bogosian, EJ, Josi, Cowen, Muzzin
G- Lehtonen

F: Granlund, Silfverberg, Jensen, Dalpe, Bowman, Knight, Fasth, JAM, O'Dell
D: Beaulieu, Koekkoek, Gelinas, Pysyk, McCabe, Irwin, Gryba
G: Nilsson, Poulin, Nilstorp, Ramo, Berra, Brossoit, C.Gibson

Good Point on Granlund. Tks for that!

I expect Voracek would be kept over each of these guys aswell.

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C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, (C/R)
L - Hall, Semin, Macdonald(C/L), Healtey(L/R),
R - Perry, Yakupov, Voracek, Voracek, Williams, Boyes
D - Streit, OEL, Edler, Karlsson, B. Smith, Beauchemin, Seidenberg
G - Rinne, Bryzgalov, Anderson, Bernier, Vokoun
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Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G,

(Weighted Category Points: see below).

Skaters -
(Points: G a/o A) 6
(+/-) 3
(PIM) 1
(PPP) 5
(GWG) 5

Goaltenders
(W) 15
(GA) -10
(SV) 1
(SHO) 15

out of the three carter is clearly a step ahead imo. i also would keep voracek first though.

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LW= ovechkin,nash,s.gagner,dubinsky
RW= downie,hemsky,callahan,voracek,perry,mueller
D= green,doughty,phaneuf,wisniewski,girardi,karlsson
G= rask,lundqvist,ward,price

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Just curious for clarification - you only own Carter right (based on your signature)? If so, then how do Krejci and Callahan come into play? Are you thinking about making a swap if either are more valuable than Carter?

Cally aside, I don't understand your statement above.

Carter- 2008/09 - 84pts, +23, 68 PIM, 24PPP and 12GWG (82 games)
Krejci - n/a

Carter- 2009/10 - 61pts, +2, 38 PIM, 22PPP and 6 GWG (74 games)
Krejci - 2009-10 - 52pts, +8, 26 PIM, 14PPP and 3 GWG (79 games)

Carter- 2010/11 - 66pts, +27, 39 PIM, 17PPP and 7 GWG (80 games)
Krejci - 2010/11 - 62pts, -5, 36 PIM, 11PPP and 2 GWG (75 games)

Carter- 2011/12 - 34pts, -12, 16 PIM, 13PPP and 2 GWG (55 games)
Krejci - 2011/12 - 62pts, -5, 36 PIM, 11PPP and 2 GWG (79 games)

My Summary having had a chance to really analyze this...Carter has put up 60+ pts for a while now (scoreing over ppg pace once in his career). Krejci has put up 62 for 2 years.

Looking at these guys over the past 3 or 4 years, I don't think there's any comparison between the 2. Besides Carter's lack lustred performance last year, where he still put up more PPP and just as many GWG as Krejci in 24 less games across 2 teams, I'd go as far as to say that Krejci doesn't come CLOSE to Carter's production and fantasy value (over this time span) and that's not even counting Hits and SOG's.

Unless your arguement is that Carter will FAIL to continually hit 60+ points moving forward.

There's no doubt that Carter's output has been trending downward since his 84 point season, but the only time he really stumbled over the past 4 years was a year that he was traded to HOCKEY HELL...got Hurt...and spent his 55 games adjusting to 2 teams.

Honestly...I'm starting to think that I may be undervalueing Carter. (Wow...I've convinced myself!)

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C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, (C/R)
L - Hall, Semin, Macdonald(C/L), Healtey(L/R),
R - Perry, Yakupov, Voracek, Voracek, Williams, Boyes
D - Streit, OEL, Edler, Karlsson, B. Smith, Beauchemin, Seidenberg
G - Rinne, Bryzgalov, Anderson, Bernier, Vokoun
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Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G,

(Weighted Category Points: see below).

Skaters -
(Points: G a/o A) 6
(+/-) 3
(PIM) 1
(PPP) 5
(GWG) 5

Goaltenders
(W) 15
(GA) -10
(SV) 1
(SHO) 15

I picked other and I think you should got with Voracek.

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G,A,PTS,GWG,PIM,SOG,STP,HT,BL,+/-,W,GAA,SV,SO
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies

F - Stamkos, Perry, E.Staal, Voracek, J.Staal, Simmonds, Ott, Downie, J.Jokinen, Eller, Nielson, Prust
D - Martin, Faulk, Brodie, Ellerby, M.Weber, Stone
G - Bobrovsky, Halak
Bench - Brunner, Brodie, Strachan, Khudobin, Lindback, Neuvirth, Ramo

Prospects - Calvert, Forsberg, Etem, Namestinikov, Kreider, Cundari

I was approached by the owner of both Cally and for Krejci (in my attempts to shop Carter around for a defensive upgrade). Carter has been getting trashed for a long time on these boards...it made me wonder if I would be selling low on him.

Clearly I would be for Cally...but I think I also would be for Krejci.

For now...I think I'll hang on to Carter and make a decisions between Carter and Voracek (assuming I keep Granlund) when I'm forced to. (baring a better trade offer).

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Team:
C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, (C/R)
L - Hall, Semin, Macdonald(C/L), Healtey(L/R),
R - Perry, Yakupov, Voracek, Voracek, Williams, Boyes
D - Streit, OEL, Edler, Karlsson, B. Smith, Beauchemin, Seidenberg
G - Rinne, Bryzgalov, Anderson, Bernier, Vokoun
10 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, Util, Util, G, G,

(Weighted Category Points: see below).

Skaters -
(Points: G a/o A) 6
(+/-) 3
(PIM) 1
(PPP) 5
(GWG) 5

Goaltenders
(W) 15
(GA) -10
(SV) 1
(SHO) 15