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Old 12-03-2012, 04:10 AM
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Default trade offer schultz,heatley,,,,

long time i write here(lockout!!!)

i have a offer on the table

i give

justin schultz and tj oshie

i receive

dany heatley and victor hedman

light upgrade for the forward but for the defense i think not

not bad but not great move , what your thinking about this....
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At this point I'm not sure that Heatley should be considered an upgrade over Oshie and I'd take Schultz well over Hedman. I think you'd better stick with what you have
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I wouldn't do that, nor do I understand the motivation for considering it.
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This is not a good trade for you at all
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:37 AM
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I have to agree with the others. I wouldn't do it. I expect to see a bump in Heatleys numbers due to the Parise/Suter factor but he is on the decline. Oshie isnt anything spectactular but Schultz will be the one you will eventually regret giving up.

Stick with what you have here.
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Old 12-03-2012, 09:26 AM
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I would say to no to this trade. This trade does not make your team better.
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Agree with the consensus here.

Heatley over Oshie is argueable. Heatley is on his way out...or at the very least...will remain a sub PPG player even with the new talent surrounding him. I'd expect Minn to try and bump up Granlund eventually to the #1 line which probably means Heatley is a 2nd liner in the next 2 years. Oshie has been steadily increasing his presence for St.L. I expect he will cement himself as the #1 Winger next to Backes for the forseeable future. So Oshie's upside already outweighs Heatley's expectations.

And Shultz is a far more valuable prospect (fantasy wise) than Hedman has ever been or ever projects to be.

Stick with what you have bud! Thank everyone above me who said the same.
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Old 12-03-2012, 11:21 AM
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I agree with no for this trade. I think Hedman will be fine in the long run, but I also think Schultz will be great too. Oshie vs Heatly, I give the edge to Oshie. No reason to make that deal.
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I bought low on Hedman this summer because I haven't given up on him just yet, but I wouldn't trade Schultz for him. Plus I don't like heatley so I wouldn't do that deal if I was you.
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thanks guy

when i am not sure about a move (or nearly sure thats a bad move)
i post it here and i have always good advice from you dobberdudes!!!

i dont have problem to trade schultz and oshie but what i am looking for are a good forward to put in my top 5 with kopi,parise,benn and max pac

the players i am looking in his roster is bobby ryan but he see him really big
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G,A,V,SO

----forward----
a kopitar -a ladd- j benn- j tavares-m michalek- tj oshie- d stafford
p elias- j franzen- m fisher-m ryder---b boyes


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