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Old 11-14-2012, 04:24 PM
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Would someone be willing to translate these baseball players into NHL equivalent players (given injury history/potential etc). Not an exact science since the sports are so different, but still having a hard time understanding what this deal looks like since I am not near as baseball literate as most, particularly when it comes to prospects.
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Would someone be willing to translate these baseball players into NHL equivalent players (given injury history/potential etc). Not an exact science since the sports are so different, but still having a hard time understanding what this deal looks like since I am not near as baseball literate as most, particularly when it comes to prospects.
That's a tough one. But for some reason, this trade popped into my mind as a parallel...

> Adam Oates, Rick Tocchet and Bill Ranford to Washington for Jim Carey, Anson Carter, Jason Allison, a third-round draft pick, and a conditional second-round pick.

i.e. 3 all stars for young potential

The only thing I would add is that I don't think the Jays gave up anyone nearly as good as Allison ended up being. Slow for sure, but Allison was a solid point producer and underrated for his offensive instincts.
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Would someone be willing to translate these baseball players into NHL equivalent players (given injury history/potential etc). Not an exact science since the sports are so different, but still having a hard time understanding what this deal looks like since I am not near as baseball literate as most, particularly when it comes to prospects.
Think of Buehrle as a veteran that is incredibly consistent, kind of like Ray Whitney. Johnson and Reyes are two stars in their prime, with some injury history, but when healthy they are huge difference makers for their team. Maybe like a Marian Gaborik, but not injured so often.

Bonifacio is a utility guy that can play all over the diamond, similar to Patrick Sharp but not quite as high profile. John Buck is merely a backup catcher since they somehow kept Arencibia in the deal, a guy that when needed can deliver for the team. I'd compare him to Wojtek Wolski.

What I just said might make sense to a hockey fan, I really don't know for sure though.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:16 AM
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One thing we should definitely keep in mind is we don't know if any of these guys will even see a Jays uniform just yet..AA has been well-known to flip freshly acquired players (Napoli, Michael Taylor, Edwin Jackson)...it wouldn't surprise me if he had another deal in the works and is just waiting on league approval on this trade to do it.

I've been saying the Jays should bring back Shawn Marcum for awhile. It wouldn't surprise me if AA flipped any of the players he acquired other than Reyes to get some help elsewhere...maybe even as part of a package deal with one of D'Arnaud or Arencibia. Could see him dealing Josh Johnson because of his injury history + the lack of 'control' his contract has given how important that is to Anthopoulos...then going out and signing Marcum.

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Thanks for converting this into "hockey" for me guys!
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Is this deal official now? I heard on the radio this morning that MLB has not appproved this trade (yet).
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Is this deal official now? I heard on the radio this morning that MLB has not appproved this trade (yet).
As I reply to you, it still is awaiting league approval.
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If Bud Selig approved the MASSIVE salary dump trade by Boston that sent Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett and Carl Crawford to the Dodgers this one will be approved as well.
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If Bud Selig approved the MASSIVE salary dump trade by Boston that sent Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett and Carl Crawford to the Dodgers this one will be approved as well.
that's what I was thinking as well. If this one wasn't approved that would be ridiculous.
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