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Nolasco the next guy to go somewhere. $11.5 million owed next season. I've never liked the guy. Going the Red Sox love him
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I have a feeling the Jays aren't done yet either.. I can actually see them adding another starting pitcher to join the rotation of J.Johnson, M.Buehrle, B.Morrow, and R.Romero..

I can also see them adding a big bat to bat in the 4 hole.. They could use a LF or a 1st baseman. Hell, they could really use a true DH..

AA is not done..
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This is a terrific deal for the Jays, made possible because the Marlins wanted to save dollars. Simple as that.
To those pointing out the Jays are acquiring core guys from a 69-93 team... well... (as correctly rebutted on twitter) Carter and Alomar made up the core of a lousy Padres team too.

And that deal worked out quite nicely, thank you.

As Dobber pointed out, the best part about this trade (besides getting Reyes) is shielding the overrated Romero and having the flexibility to kick his fat ass out of the rotation next year if he continues to perform poorly.

Well done AA. Very well done.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:16 PM
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On paper this deal looks quite good for the Jays, and I REALLY hope it pans out. But I am not getting too excited over anything AA does any more. He's the supposed saviour of this franchise but has proven absolutely nothing when it comes to real results.

This has the potential to change that I hope.
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:33 PM
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Doulos makes a good point. I'm acting like a kid on Christmas day but maybe I should tone it down a little. JJ has had health problems for a while. Though he was "healthy" last year, his stuff wasn't the same. Buehrle will have his work cut out for him too (but I'd consider him dependable).

Reyes has had health problems too, no? Has he ever run into manager problems? With his commitment level...etc.

Bobifacio is good people. I like him thrown in here.

Don't care much for Buck but lets see if he helps the young guys behind the plate some.
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This deal looks better than good on paper. It's friggin fantastic. They traded potential for NOW!
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Official MLB reporter for the Marlins had this to say.

Joe Frisaro ‏@JoeFrisaro
As this trade sinks in, #BlueJays are getting such high character guys. #Marlins


IMO they get more than just stars, they get leaders and guys who can make a huge impact on the team and clubhouse.
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On paper this deal looks quite good for the Jays, and I REALLY hope it pans out. But I am not getting too excited over anything AA does any more. He's the supposed saviour of this franchise but has proven absolutely nothing when it comes to real results.

This has the potential to change that I hope.
I agree the results at the major league level aren't there yet......BUT.....under AA the Jays have assembled one of, if not the best farm system in baseball. Yeah, the casual baseball fan hasn't seen what this has done for the franchise.....until now!!! AA just traded 3-4 players most Jays fans have never even heard of for all-stars. To top it off, they still have lots of depth in the system!

So, I disagree with the notion that we shouldn't get too excited over AA's moves, this is the guy who nabbed Bautista for nothing, turned an aging Rolen into Encarnacion, flipped Marcum for Lawrie, League for Morrow, etc. If you ask me, this guy has the midas touch! Hell, he even managed to get ANYONE to take Wells, now THAT is a feat!

Last year was a complete trainwreck that was mostly outside of AA's control. In an alternate universe the Jays were a respectable team last year and could be a very good team this year.

I haven't been this excited about a Jays season in a LONG time
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I agree the results at the major league level aren't there yet......BUT.....under AA the Jays have assembled one of, if not the best farm system in baseball. Yeah, the casual baseball fan hasn't seen what this has done for the franchise.....until now!!! AA just traded 3-4 players most Jays fans have never even heard of for all-stars. To top it off, they still have lots of depth in the system!

So, I disagree with the notion that we shouldn't get too excited over AA's moves, this is the guy who nabbed Bautista for nothing, turned an aging Rolen into Encarnacion, flipped Marcum for Lawrie, League for Morrow, etc. If you ask me, this guy has the midas touch! Hell, he even managed to get ANYONE to take Wells, now THAT is a feat!

Last year was a complete trainwreck that was mostly outside of AA's control. In an alternate universe the Jays were a respectable team last year and could be a very good team this year.

I haven't been this excited about a Jays season in a LONG time
Cautiously optimistic is my stance, and it certainly looks good on paper right now - which is not a bad thing by any means. Here's hoping this time it's for real. It's just been two decades of "maybe this time they will do well" and so I have a hard time being too excited until the season gets going.
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I agree the results at the major league level aren't there yet......BUT.....under AA the Jays have assembled one of, if not the best farm system in baseball. Yeah, the casual baseball fan hasn't seen what this has done for the franchise.....until now!!! AA just traded 3-4 players most Jays fans have never even heard of for all-stars. To top it off, they still have lots of depth in the system!

So, I disagree with the notion that we shouldn't get too excited over AA's moves, this is the guy who nabbed Bautista for nothing, turned an aging Rolen into Encarnacion, flipped Marcum for Lawrie, League for Morrow, etc. If you ask me, this guy has the midas touch! Hell, he even managed to get ANYONE to take Wells, now THAT is a feat!

Last year was a complete trainwreck that was mostly outside of AA's control. In an alternate universe the Jays were a respectable team last year and could be a very good team this year.

I haven't been this excited about a Jays season in a LONG time
I think the last time I was this excited was the year they signed Burnett and BJ Ryan.

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