Letter to the editor, wait what editor? - Page 2 - Fantasy Sports Forums

bondon · #11 10-22-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomm Bastic

Really?!? You haven't seen this thread, have you?

Or how about the fact that they actually let a moron like me become a mod!

Bomm Bastic · #12 10-22-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bondon

Or how about the fact that they actually let a moron like me become a mod!

Well now see I was going to leave you out of it for a change, but if you insist...

dmvincent · #13 10-22-2012, 01:56 PM

Can we please stay on topic?

Lets not derail this thread now.

ericdaoust · #14 10-22-2012, 02:18 PM

Why not contact the writer of the article in question when it happens? I cannot speak for everyone, but if I make a bad mistake I don't mind being notified so that the same mistake is not repeated.

27Blue · #15 10-22-2012, 02:25 PM

i was recently negative repped for not using capitals...

seems this is serious business to some.

blayze · #16 10-22-2012, 02:31 PM

Cut the OP some slack guys, he speaks the truth and his intentions are good. We all know the articles are free... he's just offering some constructive criticism that will improve the professionalism of the articles. I think it is good advice and I agree 100%... Dobber is trying to build a brand and a customer-base that he can hopefully convert into revenue in the future (if anything to at least break even).

We're all loyal fans of the site so we'll overlook such spelling errors without much thought, but if you're a casual visitor (which I presume represent an overwhelming majority of overall visitors) reading these articles for the first time, you will form an initial impression pretty quickly, and these minor errors reflect poorly on the site's quality and professionalism. Dobber, Angus and co. don't charge much (if anything) for content now, but who knows, that may change in the future, and to best position themselves for long-term success and flexibility to adopt different revenue models, they need to be striving for quality in everything they do.

dmvincent · #17 10-22-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blayze

Cut the OP some slack guys, he speaks the truth and his intentions are good. We all know the articles are free... he's just offering some constructive criticism that will improve the professionalism of the articles. I think it is good advice and I agree 100%... Dobber is trying to build a brand and a customer-base that he can hopefully convert into revenue in the future (if anything to at least break even).

We're all loyal fans of the site so we'll overlook such spelling errors without much thought, but if you're a casual visitor (which I presume represent an overwhelming majority of overall visitors) reading these articles for the first time, you will form an initial impression pretty quickly, and these minor errors reflect poorly on the site's quality and professionalism. Dobber, Angus and co. don't charge much (if anything) for content now, but who knows, that may change in the future, and to best position themselves for long-term success and flexibility to adopt different revenue models, they need to be striving for quality in everything they do.

I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, I was just defending Jeff.

I understand what he's trying to say and I respect him for expressing his opinion, it will only help us here at Dobber Hockey.

I'm always open to criticism, its the only way you improve as a writer and otherwise.

Dakkster · #18 10-22-2012, 03:31 PM

I think I'm the current record holder when it comes to commenting on articles to correct stuff and even I hold back a lot of the time. There are destructive errors (I include misspelled names here, because that's just embarrassing for the site) and then there are more day-to-day stuff that, while I notice them and they stick out like a sore thumb, they're just too regular.

Let me compare DobberHockey to another amateur site (and when I say amateur, I'm referring to the site articles. you won't find many errors in the guide that you actually pay for) that wants to come off as professional. The Hockey Writers. That site has a ton more writers and therefore the quality will vary, but I see waaaaaaay more errors there than here. Honestly, sometimes I don't know what brain some writers use, because sometimes it's just downright embarrassing to read The Hockey Writers. DobberHockey passed that stage some time ago.

Can things get better? Of course. One idea might be to post the articles secretly one day ahead of time so the rest of the staff can do some proof reading...

I'm your textbook internet editor/language fascist. Check out my blog and you'll find a bunch of errors, I'm sure. The point is that we often get blind about our own work. That's why proofers are always good to have.

Well, this turned into a really well-oiled post with a clear message... not. I'm just rambling.

I agree with the OP, while at the same time cutting the crew some slack. Some errors are unforgivable and just shouldn't happen, while others are nothing to be concerned about. Dobber would strengthen his brand if his articles were perfect, but what's the price of getting every article to that level?

Axeman33 · #19 10-22-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dakkster

I think I'm the current record holder when it comes to commenting on articles to correct stuff and even I hold back a lot of the time. There are destructive errors (I include misspelled names here, because that's just embarrassing for the site) and then there are more day-to-day stuff that, while I notice them and they stick out like a sore thumb, they're just too regular.

Let me compare DobberHockey to another amateur site (and when I say amateur, I'm referring to the site articles. you won't find many errors in the guide that you actually pay for) that wants to come off as professional. The Hockey Writers. That site has a ton more writers and therefore the quality will vary, but I see waaaaaaay more errors there than here. Honestly, sometimes I don't know what brain some writers use, because sometimes it's just downright embarrassing to read The Hockey Writers. DobberHockey passed that stage some time ago.

Can things get better? Of course. One idea might be to post the articles secretly one day ahead of time so the rest of the staff can do some proof reading...

I'm your textbook internet editor/language fascist. Check out my blog and you'll find a bunch of errors, I'm sure. The point is that we often get blind about our own work. That's why proofers are always good to have.

Well, this turned into a really well-oiled post with a clear message... not. I'm just rambling.

I agree with the OP, while at the same time cutting the crew some slack. Some errors are unforgivable and just shouldn't happen, while others are nothing to be concerned about. Dobber would strengthen his brand if his articles were perfect, but what's the price of getting every article to that level?

I totally agree with this statement.

Dobber · #20 10-22-2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakkster

I think I'm the current record holder when it comes to commenting on articles to correct stuff and even I hold back a lot of the time. There are destructive errors (I include misspelled names here, because that's just embarrassing for the site) and then there are more day-to-day stuff that, while I notice them and they stick out like a sore thumb, they're just too regular.

Let me compare DobberHockey to another amateur site (and when I say amateur, I'm referring to the site articles. you won't find many errors in the guide that you actually pay for) that wants to come off as professional. The Hockey Writers. That site has a ton more writers and therefore the quality will vary, but I see waaaaaaay more errors there than here. Honestly, sometimes I don't know what brain some writers use, because sometimes it's just downright embarrassing to read The Hockey Writers. DobberHockey passed that stage some time ago.

Can things get better? Of course. One idea might be to post the articles secretly one day ahead of time so the rest of the staff can do some proof reading...

I'm your textbook internet editor/language fascist. Check out my blog and you'll find a bunch of errors, I'm sure. The point is that we often get blind about our own work. That's why proofers are always good to have.

Well, this turned into a really well-oiled post with a clear message... not. I'm just rambling.

I agree with the OP, while at the same time cutting the crew some slack. Some errors are unforgivable and just shouldn't happen, while others are nothing to be concerned about. Dobber would strengthen his brand if his articles were perfect, but what's the price of getting every article to that level?

Good post. I agree

And to the OP - thanks for bringing it up. I can use all the help I can get. There are certain columnists who are so good that I just learn to almost blindly trust them. I skim their piece so quickly that some things are bound to slip through. And then there are the weaker writers - oddly enough, those get edited more closely and the end result may actually be fewer mistakes.

It needs an unbiased eye, for sure.

And yeah - the Guides are almost flawless. I go through those several times before publishing, and the one or two mistakes that slip through get corrected within a day. But you pay for the Guides and they deserve more care.

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