If you're drafting now (today!) how are you guys playing this?

Everyone seems so convinced Luongo's gone but if that's not the case Schneider owners could be scrambling without a good plan B!

My 20-team keeper league has 22 Goalie's kept!

Should be looking at a good goalie to back him up or let it ride?

I used to draft a backup around the 4th/5th round to backup Ward, should I be looking at a half-decent starter in the earlier rounds now?

Guys available: Brodeur, Lindback, Kiprusoff, Anderson, Dubnyk, Holtby, Neuvirth, Dubnyk, Crawford, Nabokov, Reimer, Scrivens, Bobrovsky, Harding, Vokoun etc.

Can you get by with a Vokoun or Harding or are you going for a legit Starter?

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20 Team Roto: Year 4: Keep*5: C,LW,RW, 4F, 3D, G, 4B: G, A, PPP, SHP, +-, GW - W, SV%, SO

C: Malkin*
LW: Benn*
RW: St. Louis*
F: Moulson*, Stepan, Bozak, Zajac
D: Gardiner, Carle, Ekman-Larsson
G: Schneider*
B: Bouchard, Wisniewski, Neuvirth, LaBarara, Pouliot

As a gambling man I'm inclined to let it ride, if Luongo's gone and I get a full season from Schneider I can take down this league.

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20 Team Roto: Year 4: Keep*5: C,LW,RW, 4F, 3D, G, 4B: G, A, PPP, SHP, +-, GW - W, SV%, SO

C: Malkin*
LW: Benn*
RW: St. Louis*
F: Moulson*, Stepan, Bozak, Zajac
D: Gardiner, Carle, Ekman-Larsson
G: Schneider*
B: Bouchard, Wisniewski, Neuvirth, LaBarara, Pouliot

Kipper would be a nice insurance policy. I wouldn't waste a bench spot on a backup goalie in your league, but there are a few reasons I would try to pick up Kiprusoff if I were you this year. 1. Even if Luongo is moved, Lack will likely see some playing time as Schneider transitions towards a workhorse workload in a couple years; 2. If there is hockey this season, the shortened (and probably condensed) season will likely see a lot of teams using their backups more often to prevent injuries to their #1 guys, resulting again in less starts for Schneider; and 3. Kipper has a good a chance as any to carry the bulk of the load for his team, so independent of Schneider's situation, you'll have a solid netminder in your cache to get you through this season.

With Malkin, Benn and an aging St. Louis on your squad, you've got a good core to take a run at the title this year if you draft well. It would be a shame to find out half way through the season that you've got a championship team, but Schneider's playing time is holding back your goalie stats. It's be too late then to add somebody in a 20-team league. I try to shore up my goaltending situation and then build a team on that solid foundation. Good luck with whatever you decide.

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NHL 12 Team Full Keeper, Roto
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO

C - Crosby,Getzlaf,Granlund
LW - Pacioretty,E.Kane,Hartnell
RW - Backes,Simmonds,SamGagne
D - Letang,Byfuglien,Subban,Hamilton
G - Lundqvist,Fleury,Schneider,Bryz
IR - Kovy

MLB 9 Team Full Keeper, Roto
R, H, HR, RBI, SB, BB, K, AVG, W, L, SV, BB, K, ERA

C - Lucroy
1B - Butler
2B - Kinsler
3B - Middlebrooks
SS - Andrus
OF - Trout,McCutchen,Kemp
Util - Altuve,McLouth
BN - Gyorko,Profar
SP - Price,Gio,Moore,Harvey,Miller,Bailey
RP - Chapman,Frieri,K.Jansen,Bell,Tazawa
DL - Beachy,Pineda

I would be pretty confident in the fact that Luongo will be outta there shortly after the lockout is resolved. In your situation, I think you will be fine just grabbing Lack with a last-round flier type pick and riding it out with Schneider. He will be the guy, but with a condensed schedule (loaded with b2bs), the Canucks will want to be conservative while they ease Schneider into the workhorse role. I would say that Lack is a good bet for 20-25 stars at least - assuming a full 82-game sked.

Good luck to you, buddy. Cheers

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mounD: 2011-12 Champs // 2012-13 Champs
12 Team H2H Keeper (Keep 18)
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 2G, 5BN (IR)
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, FoW // W, Sv%, GAA, SHO

C: Getzlaf, Backes(RW),B. Richards,
LW: Parise, Hall, Kunitz, Ladd, Marchand(C,LW)
RW: Kessel, Neal(LW) Hossa, Burrows(Lw)
D: Karlsson, Chara, Burns, Boyle
G: Rinne, M. Smith
Bn: Jussi Jokinen(C,LW), Cammalleri(C,LW), Weiss(C), Timonen, Visnosky

Farm: Kadri, Coyle, Gallagher, Järnkrok - Barrie, Trouba, Vatanen - Khudobin

Do you have a maximum game limit per position?

Actually I'd be tempted to pick up Kiprusoff regardless to ensure you get the maximum number of starts, given two of your three categories are counting ones. Sure, shutouts can be a bit random but in a roto league any additional shutout should make a difference to the overall standings. Lack is a nice option if Luongo goes but it's still up in the air. Plenty of people know more about the situation than me but I'd still be cautious. Plus, especially if you do have max games, given your skater setup, I don't think you'll need too many bench players to make up your games and can rotate players around quite easily.

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All I've got...all I've got is insane!

Yeah I would probably look into getting Kipper... The thing is with 20 teams, goalies are going to be at a premium. If you look at the "optimal" scenario. If Luongo gets moved, Schneider gets #1 status and you have Kipper, then you have a great trading chip that you can move for other pieces later on.

If Luongo doesn't get moved, then you have Kipper has your backup plan so you won't be struggling to find starts.

In 20 teamers the scarcity position will be goalies, there's only 30 #1 goalies out there, take away a couple in split time roles, and another couple for poor numbers and there really isn't a lot of quality owns that will set you above your competition out there at that position.

Kipper is my option.

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I think since it is a roto league and absolutely critical question is do you have maximum games played per position? If you do, then drafting Lack much later in the draft is really all you need to do to give yourself very competitive goaltending in this league and you can focus on offensive cats early in the draft. Maximum games will be adjusted down in a shortened season - Schneider and Lack will give you all the starts you are allowed on a damn good team.

However, if you don't have maximum games played then with wins and SO representing 22% of your scoring cats, taking a starting goalie as early as the first round makes a lot of sense. You have 78 skaters kept already so a good starting goalie will certainly produce more roto value in a non-max games league than the 79th skater will. Make sure to use the same night tool to select that goalie so that you are benefiting from more starts because of lower game conflicts.

Brodeur conflicts 41 times, Kipper 43 and Anderson 44 - so I think Kipper as most have suggested is probably the best choice.

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Yahoo weekly starts 12 team league, keep 17 plus farm

GS, W, L, SV, GAA, SV%, SO G, A, P, +/-, PIM, SOG, GWG, PPP, SHP, HITS, FOW

3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
1Util:
2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

Drafting Lack is an option, but that's only an option if Luongo gets dealt. If Luongo stays, that will screw Schneider and burn up another player slot for someone playing in the AHL.

Also keep in mind too that the schedule will most likely change... So the conflicts that exist now might not exist when the lockout ends, especially with the new 1 extra game every 5 weeks plan they're implementing.

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Dobber Expert Pool Champion 2011-12

Assuming the draft occurs before the lockout ends, I think in a max games league, Lack is an option. Luongo is gone.

Obviously the schedule after the lockout will reflect different conflicts but if again the draft happens before the lockout ends, one has to take a shot.

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Yahoo weekly starts 12 team league, keep 17 plus farm

GS, W, L, SV, GAA, SV%, SO G, A, P, +/-, PIM, SOG, GWG, PPP, SHP, HITS, FOW

3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
1Util:
2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

Fair enough

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