I think it's more the writing than the acting. It's not the chick who plays Lori's fault that she was written as a terrible character who tells Rick to kill Shane and then gets mad about it....

On a side note...these were hilarious.

http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2012/11/how...g-dead/#page/1

All dawgs go to heaven

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No... that actress was terrible.
Actors or actresses totally make a TV show... the writing is fine.


Loved the link - just reviewed it.
LOL Carl's first V!

....and it's his mom's.

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I'm inclined to think that it's both. Characters make a TV show, not actors and actresses alone. Good writing puts actors in a position where they can show their strengths. So much of Sarah Wayne Callies' time as Lori was not spent in a position resembling anywhere near her strengths. The fact is the writing on this show, particularly during the end of Frank Darabont's run as show runner completely boxed in so many of these characters but good writing along with good acting can bring them to life.

Take Rick for example. He was awful last season. Andrew Lincoln, the actor who plays him, was awful last season. But I think they've given him a new sense of purpose and it's made him really really good this year. I actually care about his plight again.

Great actors can make terrible writing come to life and great writing can make bad actors look great. Last season was a case of mediocre acting on a terribly written show and this season they've been taking care of the trash, removing characters who were simply boxed in too much.

This show has taken a complete 180 and yet I still question what they are doing with regard to some of the new characters they've introduce. There's no denying that both Michonne and The Governor were well cast and have great actors portraying them but virtually every other character they have introduced resonates with the same sort of shallowness that was typical of last season. You can seemingly only make so much lemonaid out of the lemons you've cast.

What this season has done best is to focus on what it has always done best, kill zombies. They've added enough story to keep it fresh and keep it interesting but the main attraction is always going to be visceral action, which demands very little of it's actors and instead demands more excellence from their brilliant production team. These are the true stars of the show, the people in hair, makeup and special effects. What they have provided every week is nothing short of stunning. In that sense the writing on this show, particularly this season, has been brilliant. The zombies and the action and the behind the scenes people who make that happen are the real stars of the show and that has only been accentuated by new show runner Glen Mazzarra.

So I really choose to blame Frank Darabont for every part of the show that was awful last season, from the terrible writing to the short-sighted casting the show devolved into something awful, with just enough zombie killing to keep me coming back.

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Finally caught up and I can go back to reading this thread

I love the direction the show has taken, but I don't think you should be expecting complex characters, because the comic books has even more shallow characters to draw from for the show.

I like how they've remade the Governor so far. It was completely impossible to connect to his character in the comic books and in the show they've given him some sympathy, even if it might be just for show. He's obviously still very twisted. I wonder how the two groups' paths will cross and turn into the war that happens in the comic books.

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I assume it's going to happen with Merle going to look for his brother with the Governor and co.

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I don't know... since, in the show, Michonne and Andrea weren't effectively taken from the big group by the Governor, there will have to be another situation to create the kind of extreme animosity between them that happens in the comic books. It's pretty clearly not going to follow the same story arc.

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Was that fat/bloated zombie supposed to have eaten Lori!?! Or do you think that's what they wanted us to think and Carl didn't shoot her and we're actually going to see a zombie Lori soon .....

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Just started the first episode. Gotta see what all this hype is about!

Sooooooooo you'll be caught up by the weekend. Perfect!

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