My guess is that while Rick and Co. are staging their coup on Woodbury, Merle and Co. will be rounding up the rest of the crew in the prison so that nothing will actually be resolved in this mid-season finale.

Also, I really enjoyed this week's episode. All the stuff with Glen was particularly awesome. When he finally kills the walker and then let's out a huge war cry was beastly in a really engaging way.

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I'm really liking Glenn's development through this series. Really starting to become more of a leader type compared to the delivery boy.

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On the comics, not to spoil it for others **SPOILER ALLERTTTT**
The Gov captures rick, michone, glen. cuts rick's hand off and brutally rapes michonne. That is roughly where the show is now... They seem to follow similarly but with different characters in place.

Things get pretty graphic at this part. Specifically with Michonne and the govenor .

They never explained the head thing in the comics.

I suspect Merle betrays the gov. I sensed some tension when he "woudln't let him go find his brother". Plus, if Merle goes back with the group... he is likely to create more drama... whicht he show is all about.

Darryl is loved to much by the audience for anything bad to happen to him.

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As awful as this sounds it feels a bit like a rip off that we didn't get a Governor rapes Maggie scene. Not that I wanted to see it but rather if the point of this show is to demonstrate how hopeless everything is and if they really wanted to portray the Governor as this psychopath then we are eventually going to have to see him follow through.

So far all we've seen is the Governor kill some strangers (albeit soldiers) in order to acquire their supplies. This doesn't strike me as "bad character" by anyone at this point in the zombie world. No, I'm starting to think that the Governor on this TV show is something of a pansy. Zombie head aquariums aside the Governor seems like a mostly normal dude who just wants to find some order in the chaos and possibly find a way to get his family back.

Clearly the writers on the show wanted us to believe the Governor was capable of rape, which is why they scripted the scene as they did but I didn't really buy it. I understand the reason they didn't go through with it, for all the disgusting visceral gore on this show that's still a line that doesn't need crossing but because of all the awfulness they've already demonstrated on this show I do think that if they want us to believe a character is capable of something they'll actually have to follow through and show it.

So I'm not advocating for a rape scene but rather I'd like to see a little more evidence of how truly terrible this Governor character is so that I can truly buy in to hating him. Right now I don't hate him. If anything I empathize with him as a man who built this town of Woodbury free from the terribleness of the wild but in order to protect this place he's had to enlist some pretty terrible people (Merle etc.) and that causes him to continually do bad things like kill those soldiers. This doesn't feel like the character they want me to believe he is and it certainly isn't the character I want to believe he is but from what I've seen so far that's who this character is. If they want me to believe he's gone fully evil, I need to see it.

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I think this is where we really see the limitations of the network that's airing the show. If this was HBO that scene would have fully played out instead the implied nature of what we got. Just go back to The Sopranos and Dr. Melfi getting raped in the stairwell of the parking garage. They wouldn't have flinched at having the Governor rape Maggie. That seems to be where AMC draws their moral line, and they're not willing to show the apocalypse in all it's harsh reality.

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Agreed, he isn't "villified" as in the comics. I think Maggie scene was supposed to be the "Michonne" scene from the comics. Obviously, as you guys mention, they can't do due to network tv reasons... they tried to imply it though. They didn't sell the torture much either... for example, cutting Rick's hand off for no real reason in the comic to start...? Instead they leave Glenn w/ a zombie to die (and that was Merle).

They make this guy seem more manipulative than crazy. He is a tyrant in the comics... pure evil!


To reply to One87; I hope you didn't just spoil it for me. I agree that Merle has tension with the Gov over his brother. This week's ep should be a good
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--> Merle/Daryl don't exist in the comics, so I didn't really spoil anything
As I say this though, I think i've just clued into what they are actually going to do. Which will make things definately interesting.

I think it is safe to say there will be some killin' next episode. (Speculating, not related to my previous comments. It is a mid season finale after all)

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For those who haven't read the comics, I think this is like comic 30-70ish range??? Newest being about 104... there are a few story lines in between. I can easily see 2-3 seasons out of the remaining potential story lines if they drag it out. The comic is obviously still going.

Things get pretty nasty in the most recent

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