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View Poll Results: Keeper League: Grigorenko or Schwartz??
Grigorenko(BUF) 24 64.86%
Schwartz(STL) 13 35.14%
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:31 PM
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I'm still blown away by people saying Grigorenko has character flaws. Has any of us ever met him? Sure, the scouts knew something that we didn't that caused him to drop a bit in the draft, but he's still an elite talent and not all scouts were convinced of these said "character flaws". Aren't all 18 year old kids still developing their character? He had mono down the stretch and his work ethic was questioned.... I'm voting Grigorenko because I'm a firm believer of the strategy that when drafting "fantasy prospect teams", you should swing for the fences and some say his upside is just as high as Galchenyuks or Yakupov.
Nope, I have never met the kid. Nor did I question his skill. I have to go on what I see and what I saw at the draft was basically 11 of the weakest NHL franchises taking a pass on this kids high skill level. Pretty much tells me that his character has to come into question.

I have personally seen him play at least 3 times in Halifax and theres no doubt of his skill level. The kid is a beast. But theres something to be said when that many teams dont take a chance on him.
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Nope, I have never met the kid. Nor did I question his skill. I have to go on what I see and what I saw at the draft was basically 11 of the weakest NHL franchises taking a pass on this kids high skill level. Pretty much tells me that his character has to come into question.

I have personally seen him play at least 3 times in Halifax and theres no doubt of his skill level. The kid is a beast. But theres something to be said when that many teams dont take a chance on him.
Like I said in a prior post, Forsberg also slid down the draft. In this case, I think positional needs got in the way. Not saying Grigorenko is a future captain or anything like that, but why did Forsberg, another probable top-5 pick, also fall out of the top-10?
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Like I said in a prior post, Forsberg also slid down the draft. In this case, I think positional needs got in the way. Not saying Grigorenko is a future captain or anything like that, but why did Forsberg, another probable top-5 pick, also fall out of the top-10?
It doesn't really work like that though. When people say a "projected Top 5 pick" they are going off of the general CSS and ISS rankings and such, which don't mean anything.

Teams passed on Forsberg because the player they took was ranked higher on their board.
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It doesn't really work like that though. When people say a "projected Top 5 pick" they are going off of the general CSS and ISS rankings and such, which don't mean anything.

Teams passed on Forsberg because the player they took was ranked higher on their board.
But could the same apply to Grigorenko? Does it have to be the character concerns that dragged him down? Could it just be a draft board thing like it was for the other guy?
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Grigorenko for me.....
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I'm going Schwartz here, and I'm someone who doesn't have anything bad to say about Grigs.

I just happen to think Schwartz is pretty much a top 5 fantasy prospect.
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I'm with Dyz here - how Schwartz has flown so far below the radar for as long as he has is simply beyond me.

I like Grigorenko more than Galchenyuk (for fantasy hockey... Gally for real life) but I like Schwartz more than Grigo.
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I'm with Dyz here - how Schwartz has flown so far below the radar for as long as he has is simply beyond me.

I like Grigorenko more than Galchenyuk (for fantasy hockey... Gally for real life) but I like Schwartz more than Grigo.
Only thing that worries me about Schwartz is STL depth, but with Grigs there's Hodgson, Ennis, Ott, etc... no lack of depth there either.
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But could the same apply to Grigorenko? Does it have to be the character concerns that dragged him down? Could it just be a draft board thing like it was for the other guy?
Definitely the draft board. But he was probably ranked lower on draft boards because of his on-ice character (see my first post). I don't think he has any character issues off the ice or anything like that, it's just the way he plays, and his on-ice character may be lacking for some teams.
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Only thing that worries me about Schwartz is STL depth, but with Grigs there's Hodgson, Ennis, Ott, etc... no lack of depth there either.
Ott is a leftwinger, not a center...
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