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View Poll Results: Keeper League: Grigorenko or Schwartz??
Grigorenko(BUF) 24 64.86%
Schwartz(STL) 13 35.14%
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:45 AM
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hmm actually a bit of a tricky one, Grigs has that upside but is still developing, Schwartz has that combo of skill and leadership. I'd probably go with Schwartz, safe pick and still good upside, but I can see easily being talked into taking Grigs with his theoretically higher ceiling.
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I picking Schwartz right now. I think this kid is a quality leader and a real character player who is the total package. Theres no doubt of Grig's potential for putting points on the score sheet but he has some obvious character flaws (obvious due to his fall during the NHL draft) that leaves me scratching my head over him.
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Both are really great prospects but it is Grigorenko for me.
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Grigorenko offers more high-end scoring potential.
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I picking Schwartz right now. I think this kid is a quality leader and a real character player who is the total package. Theres no doubt of Grig's potential for putting points on the score sheet but he has some obvious character flaws (obvious due to his fall during the NHL draft) that leaves me scratching my head over him.
I'm still blown away by people saying Grigorenko has character flaws. Has any of us ever met him? Sure, the scouts knew something that we didn't that caused him to drop a bit in the draft, but he's still an elite talent and not all scouts were convinced of these said "character flaws". Aren't all 18 year old kids still developing their character? He had mono down the stretch and his work ethic was questioned.... I'm voting Grigorenko because I'm a firm believer of the strategy that when drafting "fantasy prospect teams", you should swing for the fences and some say his upside is just as high as Galchenyuks or Yakupov.

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With top-notch vision and hockey IQ, Grigorenko effectively fills the role of the playmaker as well, creating numerous opportunities for teammates. In terms of raw skill (and perhaps total offensive upside) there isn’t a purer selection than Grigorenko in 2012.
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I'm still blown away by people saying Grigorenko has character flaws. Has any of us ever met him? Sure, the scouts knew something that we didn't that caused him to drop a bit in the draft, but he's still an elite talent and not all scouts were convinced of these said "character flaws". Aren't all 18 year old kids still developing their character? He had mono down the stretch and his work ethic was questioned.... I'm voting Grigorenko because I'm a firm believer of the strategy that when drafting "fantasy prospect teams", you should swing for the fences and some say his upside is just as high as Galchenyuks or Yakupov.
People say Grigorenko has character flaws because he's Russian. That's how the hockey world views him.
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That's unfortunate. Arguable the best player in the world at the moment (Malkin) is Russian. That should be enough motivation for Russian prospects (who furthermore moved to Canada at a young age to play in the CHL) to continue pursuing the NHL as well as quell any fears of him being a KHL flight risk.
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People say Grigorenko has character flaws because he's Russian. That's how the hockey world views him.
Well why aren't we hearing the same from Yakupov? He's Russian too you know.

So I'm not buying that argument.
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Well why aren't we hearing the same from Yakupov? He's Russian too you know.

So I'm not buying that argument.
Some escape the stereotype, others don't. Datsyuk is an example of a guy that is well regarded. But if Grigorenko falls a few draft spots (Forsberg did too), then he is has flawed character.
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I'll take the guy who isn't soft and doesn't disappear when a game gets fast and physical.
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