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Old 10-04-2012, 05:07 AM
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Team in sig. We just had our draft, 1st year keeper. I'm overloaded on goalies as you can see but I'm keeping them for trade bait later when the guys who have backup goalies as their 1st goalie start to panic - there's plenty of them, and they will overpay soon enough but not yet (I play a similar goalie set up (possibility to start only 1 goalie, with min 3 starts a week) last year and it was at times hard even with a 1a and 1b tandem). In the meantime Tarasenko seems to get a lot of hype and I've already had some open offers for him, I think some might be ready to overpay right now - and I'm not sure in this kind of format that I need to hang on to him tooth and claw, considering I have quite a few prospects - as my strategy is to have grinders put up points in all cats and win on peripherals (though I have no idea what kind of peripherals Tarasenko is supposed to put up).

What should I target if Tarasenko is the trade bait? I'm thinking an established LW (something like Fleischmann or van Riemsdyk perhaps with some picks) or a 40-45 point D-man? Any thoughts welcome!!
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What should I target if Tarasenko is the trade bait? I'm thinking an established LW (something like Fleischmann or van Riemsdyk perhaps with some picks) or a 40-45 point D-man? Any thoughts welcome!!
I wouldn't move Tarasenko straight up for either Fleischmann or JVR. Well JVR would be close but I'd prefer Tarasenko. Fleischmann is just meh. You can get much better with Tarasenko.

You have solid top-4 D-man but are somewhat lacking on wings so I wouldn't be moving Tarasenko for a D-man (unless you can get elite D-man such as Letang but that's highly doubtful).

I'd look for buy low candidates like Bobby Ryan. You need to add something but that'd be worthwhile doing.
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ask around to see what offers you can get and then you can choose who you think fits best. im sure youd get a few offers.
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I wouldn't move Tarasenko straight up for either Fleischmann or JVR. Well JVR would be close but I'd prefer Tarasenko. Fleischmann is just meh. You can get much better with Tarasenko.

You have solid top-4 D-man but are somewhat lacking on wings so I wouldn't be moving Tarasenko for a D-man (unless you can get elite D-man such as Letang but that's highly doubtful).

I'd look for buy low candidates like Bobby Ryan. You need to add something but that'd be worthwhile doing.
Just on the basis that I got Tarasenko with pick nr. 225, and Ryan was had with pick nr.22; I think the owner would see that as lopsided - if for nothing else highlighting how early he picked Ryan (as its very fresh in mind being a 1st year keeper)...
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Just on the basis that I got Tarasenko with pick nr. 225, and Ryan was had with pick nr.22; I think the owner would see that as lopsided - if for nothing else highlighting how early he picked Ryan (as its very fresh in mind being a 1st year keeper)...
Yes, some gms do think like that, and with lockout are less likely to change their mind. (I don't see how ppl can rate Ryan top 25 based on his stats)

Since it's a keeper you can afford to wait and see if Tarasenko's stock goes higher (remember hype = increased value), instead of trading for a average replacement type player.

I would want something better then JVR/Flash, perhaps someones willing to deal you Pacioretty or similar type players who will produce now.

In my league, I dealt Tarasenko as part of package for Chara.
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Just on the basis that I got Tarasenko with pick nr. 225, and Ryan was had with pick nr.22; I think the owner would see that as lopsided - if for nothing else highlighting how early he picked Ryan (as its very fresh in mind being a 1st year keeper)...
After the season Ryan had, it's surprising to see him go that high. A year ago I drafted Ryan with the 25th overall pick and I would have assumed this year he'd go much lower - atleast outside of top-40.

But like I said you'd have to add to that deal but since Ryan went that high it's unlikely that he'd go for that unless you add some major pieces.

I think your best option is to hold onto Tarasenko. He has the highest upside of your wingers and it doesn't make sense for you to move him for some 50-60 point winger like Fleischmann. You have enough of those already and are better off holding onto Tarasenko's PPG potential. So unless you get a really good offer and are getting back some elite winger for Tarasenko and some other pieces, you're better off keeping Tarasenko.
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Theres no real sense in trading Tarasenko, the kid is going to be a stud. Think a young Marian Hossa. You wouldn't trade a young Marian Hossa for JVR or Fleischmann now, would you?
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Theres no real sense in trading Tarasenko, the kid is going to be a stud. Think a young Marian Hossa. You wouldn't trade a young Marian Hossa for JVR or Fleischmann now, would you?
Depends on the league settings - would trade anyone including my mom if I thought it would give me some extra points. I'm betting against Tarasenko as I'm not sold on his value with these settings - as expected Ryan's owner was on the verge of offended apparently, same with Heatley's owner, still waiting for Backes - through in some picks. But of course, as you say if he turns stud later I'm not going to trade him for the kind of deals i'm throwing around now.
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I would personally keep Tarasenko.. And secondly, you have 4 goalies.. But out of the 4, I would really only want Ward and maybe Kipper.. Bryzglaov is too much of a iffy start every game. And Scrivens, well he's Scrivens.. I think if anything, you could use some goalie help..

Don't trade Tarasenko..
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No such thing as a GM overpaying for Tarasenko.


But seriously, this guy is going to be a BEAST. Of all my prospects, and I have a lot not in my roster in my sig(baertchi, Grig, Galchenyuk, Schultz, Saad, Z-bad), this guy would be the hardest by far to get from me and it would cost a lot. I think he's the surest bet of all prospects not playing in the NHL yet to pan out.

Keep him.
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