Hey guys..

I took a look at dobbers potential numbers for these guys for next year however they dont take into consideration upside or future star players.. Just wondering who you think i should focus on..

My league is a straight points only and I already have Byfuglien as a keeper.. I need to draft 5 more dmen.. 10 team league..

Whats your top 10 to draft?

Niklas Kronwall
Dennis Wideman
Mark Giordano
Alex Goligoski
Michael Del Zotto
Jake Gardiner
Brent Burns
Christian Ehrhoff
Nick Leddy
Stefan Elliott
Joni Pitkanen
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Lubomir Visnovsky
Ryan Ellis
Erik Johnson
Ryan Whitney
Kimmo Timonen
Nikita Nikitin
Tomas Kaberle
Dmitri Kulikov
Justin Faulk
John-Michael Liles
Brent Seabrook
Victor Hedman
Adam Larsson
Dmitri Orlov
Jamie McBain
Brendan Smith
Zach Bogosian
Ian White
Daniel Girardi
Roman Josi
Tyler Myers

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"dARK wING dUCKS" 2011-2012 CHAMPS

10 Team Points Only Limited Keeper Pool (keep any 12)

Top 12 Forwards, 5 Defense & 2 Goalies Count
Goals = 1, Assist = 1, Shutout = 3, Win = 2,

F: Malkin, Neal, Spezza, Benn, Hossa, Ribero, Purcell, Bergeron, Desarnais, Roy, Elias, Berglund, Briere, Dupruis, Versteeg
D: Karlsson, Letang, Pieterangelo, Kronwall, Pitkanen, Souray, Martin
G: Lundquist, Rinne

here is how I rank them.....

OEL
Elliott
Kronwall
MDZ
Kulikov
Goligoski
Larson
Ehrhoff
Burns
Ellis
Faulk
EJ

I know that's more than 10 but those are really the only ones off there that I would consider keeping.

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12 team H2H Keeper
G,A,PP,PIM,SOG
W,GAA,SV%,SO
C:Giroux,Zberg,Marleau,Kadri
LW:Ovi,Neal,Pach,Benn
RW:Perry,MSL,Wheeler
D:Yandle,Subban,Edler,OEL
G: Lundqvist,Miller,MAF

12 Team H2H
R,2b,3b,HR,RBI,AVG,SB,BB,K,E
W,L,SV,HLD,K,ERA,WHIP
C:Buck
1B:Santana
2B:Kipnis
3B:Zimmer
SS:Tulo
LF:Marte
CF:McCutch
RF:Pence
Util:Ozuna
SP:Cain,Moore,Latos,Kennedy,Ryu,Guthrie
RP:Henderson,Rivera,League,Gregerson,Herrera
DL:Hart,Anderson,Bailey

These are my top 10..

Michael Del Zotto
Niklas Kronwall
Alex Goligoski
Stefan Elliott
Brent Burns
Dennis Wideman
Mark Giordano
Jake Gardiner
Christian Ehrhoff
Oliver Ekman-Larsson


Honorable mentions to Leddy, Ellis, Faulk & Kulikov

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"dARK wING dUCKS" 2011-2012 CHAMPS

10 Team Points Only Limited Keeper Pool (keep any 12)

Top 12 Forwards, 5 Defense & 2 Goalies Count
Goals = 1, Assist = 1, Shutout = 3, Win = 2,

F: Malkin, Neal, Spezza, Benn, Hossa, Ribero, Purcell, Bergeron, Desarnais, Roy, Elias, Berglund, Briere, Dupruis, Versteeg
D: Karlsson, Letang, Pieterangelo, Kronwall, Pitkanen, Souray, Martin
G: Lundquist, Rinne

Am I losing my mind? How is Stefan Elliott, a prospect with just 39 NHL GP of experience, getting ranked ahead of guys like Kronwall, Wideman, Giordano, Goligoski, Del Zotto, Burns, Ehrhoff, Visnovsky, Myers, etc?

Holy crap the prospect broner is raging!

In a 10-team league with limited keepers (the OP said he had Byf as a keeper, which implies that limited D are kept from year to year), you only want to have proven stud D on your roster. 10 teams x 6 D per team = 60 D owned. Top-2 D on 30 teams, and no more than that. Young D are notorious for falling short of lofty pre-season expectations... why take that risk on your roster? Let someone else make the mistake while you pick less-flashy-but-dependable vets.

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Just one man's opinion.....

If you must know....I actually consider myself to NOT be one who gets boners from prospects...

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12 team H2H Keeper
G,A,PP,PIM,SOG
W,GAA,SV%,SO
C:Giroux,Zberg,Marleau,Kadri
LW:Ovi,Neal,Pach,Benn
RW:Perry,MSL,Wheeler
D:Yandle,Subban,Edler,OEL
G: Lundqvist,Miller,MAF

12 Team H2H
R,2b,3b,HR,RBI,AVG,SB,BB,K,E
W,L,SV,HLD,K,ERA,WHIP
C:Buck
1B:Santana
2B:Kipnis
3B:Zimmer
SS:Tulo
LF:Marte
CF:McCutch
RF:Pence
Util:Ozuna
SP:Cain,Moore,Latos,Kennedy,Ryu,Guthrie
RP:Henderson,Rivera,League,Gregerson,Herrera
DL:Hart,Anderson,Bailey

My top ten list was in no paticular order..

Also keep in mind that most of my forwards will be keepers from year to year.. Adding a Young stub dman (unless he's a potential 40-50 point guy) doesnt seem worth it because year end most of my defense will be dropped..

My top Dmen for this upcoming year:

Michael Del Zotto
Niklas Kronwall
Alex Goligoski
Dennis Wideman
Brent Burns
Christian Ehrhoff
Mark Giordano
.....
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Stefan Elliott
Jake Gardiner

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"dARK wING dUCKS" 2011-2012 CHAMPS

10 Team Points Only Limited Keeper Pool (keep any 12)

Top 12 Forwards, 5 Defense & 2 Goalies Count
Goals = 1, Assist = 1, Shutout = 3, Win = 2,

F: Malkin, Neal, Spezza, Benn, Hossa, Ribero, Purcell, Bergeron, Desarnais, Roy, Elias, Berglund, Briere, Dupruis, Versteeg
D: Karlsson, Letang, Pieterangelo, Kronwall, Pitkanen, Souray, Martin
G: Lundquist, Rinne

Brent Burns
Christian Ehrhoff
Michael Del Zotto
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Alex Goligoski
Tyler Myers
John-Michael Liles
Dmitri Kulikov
Justin Faulk
Jake Gardiner
Roman Josi

If only interested in this year...these guys should have solid numbers if healthy:
Joni Pitkanen
Lubomir Visnovsky
Kimmo Timonen

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Strike Force: Penguins - RIFL Champion 2009, 2010, 2011(2nd 2012)

Del Zotto
Goligoski
OEL

are my favourites here

Elliott and Ellis should touch that tier in 2-3 years, not this year.
Visnovsky could surprise again... but he's a glass pony at this point.

Kimmo Timonen is a great darkhorse.
Old, undervalued, and the guy that will get a boatload of token assists on that PHI PP with Matt Carle gone.

Don't let Goligoski fall.
I really think he was hindered by Souray's presence. Every time I watched DAL play I saw Goligoski deferring to Souray's bomb instead of making a slick pass himself. The hands on the new DAL PP could be boss (Jagr, Whitney) and that could be a return to form for Goligoski's numbers.

I think Kronwall & I.White will be overrated.
The DET PP ran through Lidstrom. He feathered passes so well on that PP. I don't think it runs nearly as smoothly as we have all become accustomed too. Sure Kronwall has a laser-beam, but rocket shots have never been the staple that makes the Red Wing PP go.

Niklas Kronwall
Dennis Wideman
Mark Giordano
Alex Goligoski
Michael Del Zotto
Jake Gardiner
Brent Burns
Christian Ehrhoff
Nick Leddy
Stefan Elliott
Joni Pitkanen
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Lubomir Visnovsky
Ryan Ellis
Erik Johnson
Ryan Whitney
Kimmo Timonen
Nikita Nikitin
Tomas Kaberle
Dmitri Kulikov
Justin Faulk
John-Michael Liles
Brent Seabrook
Victor Hedman
Adam Larsson
Dmitri Orlov
Jamie McBain
Brendan Smith
Zach Bogosian
Ian White
Daniel Girardi
Roman Josi
Tyler Myers