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Old 07-31-2012, 02:59 PM
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Yeah HPG pretty much hit the nail on the head here for me, which was why I asked in my first post if Smokie could include what their point production was for this past season.

When you're dealing with leagues that assign different point values per stat it can really mess around with perceived values of players based on their names versus their actual production.

I remember a thread last year where someone asked for Tavares vs. Callahan and a lot of people went 'Tavares no doubt'...but once the numbers were done I think we found out that hits were HEAVILY weighted (one point per hit) and that Callahan actually blew away Tavares every year.
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it is all about gut feelings. You cant win a hockey pool with out one.
Don't you think this is because if you watch enough hockey to win your pool you also drink a lot of beer?
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How many times have you entered a hockey pool and picked the "best players" and still lost? And how many times have you caught yourself thinking "How did I lose when I picked the guys who are suppossed to be the best?
If a guy asks me to pick a number and bets me his $6 to my $1 on the roll of a die, I'll go with my gut. If he asks me to pick a number from 2 to 12 based on the roll of two dice, I'll pick 7. Sure I'll be "wrong" 30 out of 36 times even picking the "right" number, but that doesn't mean I'm playing it wrong.
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The uncertainty of fantasy hockey is what makes it so much fun plus all the arguments going back and forth makes fantasy hockey so great. Everybodys right until the end of the season!

Dont get me wrong I love stats, I look at them everyday but at the end of the day they are just guides that help us form our opinion and from these opinions is what I base my gut feelings on.

I have an inagural fantasy league draft coming up in 2 weeks and I have the 1st overall pick. Stats say I should take Malkin but my gut says to take Stamkos and thats who Im going to take. Am I wrong? Am I right? Only time will tell.

All I am saying is stats will only get you so far in a pool especially if all you are looking is at the previuos years stats. You have to use your gut feeling or you will lose out on players who had great seasons last year like James Neal and Scott Hartnell. Or you will get burned by players like Daniel Sedin and Jarome Iginla.

This year coming up my gut feeling is saying Benn and Howard will stay the same or even regress from last year my gut is saying that JT and Hiller will have better seasons than they did last year.
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Tavares finished 7th overall among skaters with 455 points this past year and Benn finished 17th with 369 points. The thing here is that as a pure Center Tavares is worth more in my mind with his FOW which adds a TON of point value. The thing here is unless Benn can make up the FOW with Hits and or pims I think Tavares has the edge. Although I'm not sure if it warrants me trading Howard for Hiller as my league favours Wins as well as a consistent SV% and low GAA per week. Last year Howard finished 7th overall with 508 points and Hiller was 17th with 450. Beyond the scope of one year I'm not sure.
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Well to play devil's advocate for the Benn/Howard side, off the bat you have to consider that Benn did miss 11 games, so if you pro-rate Benn out over a full 82 that tacks on another ~9 points bringing him to 73 points in 82 games. Ballpark (4G, 5A give or take), that adds on another 29ish fantasy points....another 21ish hits adds on another 4 fantasy points, etc. etc. It all adds up making it a lot closer than it looks at first glance.

With regards to the FOW I think Benn was hopping between LW/C whereas this year he's slated to be their #1C with Ott and Ribeiro gone.

One has to wonder how Howard will do this year though.

To play devil's advocate for Hiller though, I think last year was like the worst scenario you could possibly imagine with Anaheim and I can only see them being better this year.

Just some thoughts to consider.
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