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Dakkster · #1 07-27-2012, 09:49 PM

I figured I should ask you guys for some thoughts on my team...

Trying to do what I can to improve the team in my signature over the summer. My main goal is to improve my wingers. My goalies are solid, my centers are quite good and my Dmen are the best and deepest in the league. My wingers need work. I need depth on the RW in case of injuries and I feel that I want more star power on the left side. I'm sending out a bunch of feelers and I'm having a bunch of discussion back and forth. My Spezza seems to be a wanted man. Right now I have two offers for him.

Spezza for Nash and one of Read or Johansson

OR

Spezza and one of my D for Parise and Turris or Stastny (the caliber of D decides what center I get back, I want Stastny)

Which one should I do? If I do the second one, which of the D would you offer to make it a fair deal if I get Stastny? HPG thinks Letang, Phaneuf, Seabrook, Suter and Garrison are all in the top 23 last year with my league settings...

But even if Spezza was pretty much my best forward last year I think that I should use that to improve my wingers. My depth centers are better than my depth wingers.

I'm also talking to one guy about Brouwer or Wheeler. Brouwer wouldn't crack my top five RW, but Wheeler obviously would. Would you do Carlson + Stone for Wheeler?

We're also about to open up free agency after the draft where Rielly fell to me at 23rd. Yeah, I can't believe it either. Anyway, I'm considering dropping a few of my guys to make some pickups. How would you rank these guys?

Brodin, Spooner, Stalock, Chiasson, Cervenka, Brian Gionta, Sproul

And who would you drop to pick them up, if any?

A bit rambly, I know, but I appreciate any thoughts. Rep to those who give advice of course

HockeyCrazed613 · #2 07-27-2012, 11:58 PM

Of the two offers for Spezza, I think the second one is worth pursuing and try using Garrison to get Stastny coming back the other way along with Parise. I'm not sure how Garrison will fare in Vancouver, my gut is saying that he may not match last year's output given the pressure of the big contract and the fact that he will be under much more scrutiny now that he's in a market that actually cares about hockey. Spezza will be hard pressed to match last year's performance, and although I have him in one of my pools there is always the lingering worry that he will miss 15-20 games due to injury. In Parise, you are getting your star power at LW, and using one of your D-men to grab Stastny replaces some of what you're losing in Spezza. Your depth on D makes this deal worth it I think.

I would then do the Carlson+Stone for Wheeler deal, to address your RW depth. This, combined with the other deal, takes away some of your depth on D, but you've got Schultz and Hamilton waiting on the farm to step up to your main roster if need be.

Of the free agents you mentioned, and working from the assumption that you don't have to drop a player from the same position as that of the free agent you acquire, I would be tempted to take a run at Cervenka and drop Morin. There is a good chance that he lines up with Iginla this year, given the amount of cash Calgary threw at him and the big hole at the center ice position in Cowtown. I would also take a close look at Brodin, especially if you swing the two deals mentioned above. Perhaps you could drop Puempel to make room for Brodin, I. Think it will be a long time before Puempel fights his way through the logjam of prospects in Ottawa.

Shoeless · #3 07-28-2012, 03:20 AM

Be interesting to know what the guy would expect for a D guy in 2nd deal. If he would take Garrison, I really like that deal for you. I actually don't mind the first deal for you either, not quite as attractive though.

Position eligibility might be a factor in the Nash deal - he actually hasn't played LW for quite a while - more certainty with Parise.

I don't see much of a need to chase RW depth at this point - I would rather sit on D strength than do that.

I wonder how your goaltending will pan out this year? Looks like a volatile gang you have at that position.

Dakkster · #4 07-28-2012, 12:45 PM

Went through the numbers to try and see what I would gain or lose based on the different deals.

If I take on Nash and Read that would push McGinn out of the lineup and then I'm not sure if Read would take a spot among my centers, as that's his eligibility on ESPN. So push up McDonald or Laich and I would still lose quite a bit. Don't like that. Nash just doesn't seem worth it at that price.

If I take on Parise and Stastny that would push out McGinn again and Carlson would take Garrison's spot. That seems to be the best deal, because the numbers are pretty even using last year's stats.

Taking on Parise and Turris would leave me with Garrison, but I would lose a hell of a lot of faceoffs and offense.

Right now it seems that the Parise/Stastny for Spezza/D seems the most likely. I'm going to see if he's okay with Garrison, but who would you part with of Phaneuf, Green, Seabrook, Letang and Suter to get this done? I'm actually leaning more towards offering Garrison or Carlson and then spicing it up with a prospect or draft pick.

Trying to work the Wheeler angle...

Shoeless · #5 07-28-2012, 01:23 PM

Tough question - I would want to dig way deep to see, on balance, if making the deal with a D guy better than Garrison would actually be to your benefit.

A healthy Spezza brings a lot to the table in your league - what does a gap analysis of Spezza vs Stastny and Parise vs McGinn indicate? But since I don't know your starting roster positions, I might be all wet here and that analysis proves nothing.

Dakkster · #6 07-31-2012, 08:19 PM

A few curveballs happened, so this is what went down.

I traded Ladd and Carlson to get Briere and Jaden Schwartz. I figured that since I had Nash or Parise potentially on the way for Spezza I could lose Ladd and I needed a center to soften the blow of losing Spezza. Getting Schwartz was pure gravy.

Then I got an interesting offer from one of the other GMs that I accepted. I sent off Varlamov straight up for Parise. I figured that I have Bryzgalov, Halak and the Neuvirth/Holtby handcuff + my prospects, so I could afford losing Varly. His health was always a worry too.

Then I went back and forth with the Nash GM and settled on this. I trade Spezza, Mueller and Puempel for Nash and Erat. I've been sitting on Mueller for four years, just getting something for him is nice. I was going to drop Puempel anyway to pick up other guys. Erat gives me nice RW depth and I might try to send some of my surplus RWers packing to upgrade my top end RWers with Wheeler or Purcell or whatever. We'll see.

So I free up one spot to pick up a free agent, I get rid of bandaid boys in Spezza, Mueller and Varlamov, I get TWO superstar LWers and I strengthen my RW depth while losing as little as possible at center by switching Spezza for Briere. I could afford losing Varly, Carlson and Ladd. Right now my primary FA target is Stalock to build better goalie depth and then I'm probably going after Brodin.

So, to recap:

Spezza
Carlson
Ladd
Mueller
Varlamov
Puempel

FOR

Briere
Schwartz
Parise
Nash
Erat
one open spot for Stalock or Brodin

Skeeps · #7 07-31-2012, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HockeyCrazed613

Of the two offers for Spezza, I think the second one is worth pursuing and try using Garrison to get Stastny coming back the other way along with Parise. I'm not sure how Garrison will fare in Vancouver, my gut is saying that he may not match last year's output given the pressure of the big contract and the fact that he will be under much more scrutiny now that he's in a market that actually cares about hockey. Spezza will be hard pressed to match last year's performance, and although I have him in one of my pools there is always the lingering worry that he will miss 15-20 games due to injury. In Parise, you are getting your star power at LW, and using one of your D-men to grab Stastny replaces some of what you're losing in Spezza. Your depth on D makes this deal worth it I think.

I would then do the Carlson+Stone for Wheeler deal, to address your RW depth. This, combined with the other deal, takes away some of your depth on D, but you've got Schultz and Hamilton waiting on the farm to step up to your main roster if need be.

Of the free agents you mentioned, and working from the assumption that you don't have to drop a player from the same position as that of the free agent you acquire, I would be tempted to take a run at Cervenka and drop Morin. There is a good chance that he lines up with Iginla this year, given the amount of cash Calgary threw at him and the big hole at the center ice position in Cowtown. I would also take a close look at Brodin, especially if you swing the two deals mentioned above. Perhaps you could drop Puempel to make room for Brodin, I. Think it will be a long time before Puempel fights his way through the logjam of prospects in Ottawa.

Exactly this!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dakkster · #8 07-31-2012, 10:58 PM

Yeah, trades have already happened...

bondon · #9 07-31-2012, 10:59 PM

Looks pretty solid sentium, I think you did very well. Good to hear it worked out for you.

Dakkster · #10 07-31-2012, 11:09 PM

I mean, yeah, I could probably have squeezed out a little more of Spezza, but the way I see it I have very good balance on my team now. My LW was crap compared to the other positions and now it's crazy strong and I haven't really lost all that much in the other positions. I guess my next target will be a goalie upgrade, if possible.

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