hi guys,

I know its a little bit early but these defensemans are available in my dynasty points only league.

I have lidstrom that retire so one spot is available.
I can also replace T. Kaberle or Joni Pitkanen with one of these guys.

John Carlson is in my farm so he can take one spot.

How would you rank them ??? I dont care if I have to wait 2-3 years for the guy to reach 40-55 pts !

Jake Gardiner
Ian White
Justin Schultz
Brendan Smith
Justin Faulk
Nick Leddy
Slava Voynov
Dmitry Orlov
Dan Hamhuis

thanks guys !!

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5 team dynasty pool,points only,no positions Keep All
Backstrom,Parise,Kovalchuk,Roy,Heatley, B.Richards,Desharnais,Stastny,E.Kane,Couture,JVR Gagner,Fleischmann,Purcell,Lupul,Hodgson, Burrows
Shattenkirk,Enstrom,Campbell,Burns, BSmith,Gardiner,McBain,Wizniewski,DelZotto,Carlson
Quick, Ward, Rask, Kiprusoff
Farm:Kadri,Wheeler,Granlund,Tarasenko,Kuznetsov,St rome,Schwartz,Coyle,Paajarvi,Fowler,Elliott,Ellis, Brodin,Bailey,Schroeder,,Johansson,J.Morrow,Morin, J.Campbell,Namestnikov,

If you don't care about waiting

Schultz
Smith
Faulk
Gardiner
Orlov
Voynov
Leddy
Hamhuis
White
Dan Hamhuis

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12 team H2H Keeper
G,A,PP,PIM,SOG
W,GAA,SV%,SO
C:Giroux,Zberg,Marleau,Kadri
LW:Ovi,Neal,Pach,Benn
RW:Perry,MSL,Wheeler
D:Yandle,Subban,Edler,OEL
G: Lundqvist,Miller,MAF

12 Team H2H
R,2b,3b,HR,RBI,AVG,SB,BB,K,E
W,L,SV,HLD,K,ERA,WHIP
C:Buck
1B:Santana
2B:Kipnis
3B:Zimmer
SS:Tulo
LF:Marte
CF:McCutch
RF:Pence
Util:Ozuna
SP:Cain,Moore,Latos,Kennedy,Ryu,Guthrie
RP:Henderson,Rivera,League,Gregerson,Herrera
DL:Hart,Anderson,Bailey

I find it very hard to evaluate kids who I haven't seen play in 10 NHL games yet.

I like Faulk & Voynov of this group.
I can't peg Schultz & B.Smith until I see them play more at the NHL level.

Based on long-term upside, balanced by closest relevant production and trade value:

1. Schultz (Appears to be headed to VAN - expect 40+ next season!)
2. Faulk (I LOVE his upside and expect him to push 40 next year)
3. B.Smith (Huge upside which can only take a hit if Wings bring in a top D who logs big PP mins)
4. Orlov (The perfect PP QB - once he gets the keys, he'll be a beast)
5. Voynov (Still question his role ultimately but only Doughty stands in his way off producing big offense from the back end)
6. Gardiner (Awesome game but the selection of Morgan Rielly worries me a little and Dion will always load up on PP time)
7. Leddy (Good skills and wheels - if he can find his niche I like his chances of passing a couple on this list)
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8. White (Solid and reliable but shouldn't be in the mix)
9. Hamhuis (Forget about him)

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6-GM, Wk-H2H, Keep 40
START = 13F, 6D, 2G
F Pts = G (2), A (1), PP/SH (+1), GW (+2)
D Pts = G (3), A (2), PP/SH (+1), GW (+2)
G Pts = W (3), OTL (1), SO (+2), SV (.10)

F: Backstrom, Kopitar, Perry, P.Kane, Spezza, E.Staal, Nash, Vanek, Couture, B.Ryan, Eberle, J.Staal, D.Brown, Lucic, N.Horton, Backes, Tarasenko, van Riemsdyk, T.Ennis, B.Gallagher, Armia, Teravainen
D: Karlsson, P.Subban, Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Doughty, Yandle, Chara, Kronwall, J.Johnson, Myers, J.Faulk, E.Johnson, A.Larsson, J.Morrow, S.Elliott, M.Rielly, Ceci
G: Price, Rask, M.Smith, Hiller

Long-term: Orlov, Smith, and Schultz top my list.. Forget about Hamhuis, he will never be a huge point producer..

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Fav player: Cam Neely..

keep in mind i see the bottom 3 as being interchangeable. As for schultz Im really waiting for the hype to die down before making any accessment.

Justin Faulk
Brendan Smith
Dmitry Orlov
Slava Voynov
Jake Gardiner
Justin Schultz

Thanks guys, it helps !!!

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5 team dynasty pool,points only,no positions Keep All
Backstrom,Parise,Kovalchuk,Roy,Heatley, B.Richards,Desharnais,Stastny,E.Kane,Couture,JVR Gagner,Fleischmann,Purcell,Lupul,Hodgson, Burrows
Shattenkirk,Enstrom,Campbell,Burns, BSmith,Gardiner,McBain,Wizniewski,DelZotto,Carlson
Quick, Ward, Rask, Kiprusoff
Farm:Kadri,Wheeler,Granlund,Tarasenko,Kuznetsov,St rome,Schwartz,Coyle,Paajarvi,Fowler,Elliott,Ellis, Brodin,Bailey,Schroeder,,Johansson,J.Morrow,Morin, J.Campbell,Namestnikov,

sorry to bring back an old thread but since I asked even before july 1st, I want to know if you changed your mind and maybe other dobber member too

what would be your order now ? for points only

Jake Gardiner
Ian White
Justin Schultz
Brendan Smith
Justin Faulk
Nick Leddy
Slava Voynov
Dmitry Orlov
Dan Hamhuis

Thanks

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5 team dynasty pool,points only,no positions Keep All
Backstrom,Parise,Kovalchuk,Roy,Heatley, B.Richards,Desharnais,Stastny,E.Kane,Couture,JVR Gagner,Fleischmann,Purcell,Lupul,Hodgson, Burrows
Shattenkirk,Enstrom,Campbell,Burns, BSmith,Gardiner,McBain,Wizniewski,DelZotto,Carlson
Quick, Ward, Rask, Kiprusoff
Farm:Kadri,Wheeler,Granlund,Tarasenko,Kuznetsov,St rome,Schwartz,Coyle,Paajarvi,Fowler,Elliott,Ellis, Brodin,Bailey,Schroeder,,Johansson,J.Morrow,Morin, J.Campbell,Namestnikov,

It's possible but I truly think by the time Rielly is ready, Gardiner will have established himself. I'd imagine a scenario akin to Doughty/Voynov. Now hear me out, as I'm not comparing the two pairs to each other. Just saying they can both have good fantasy impacts playing on the same team.

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14T BiWeekly H2H. 4 C/RW/LW, 6 D, 2 G
Cats:G(3), A(1.5), +-(1), PIM(0.2), PPP(1), SOG(0.2), GWG(1), SHP(2), Hits(0.3), BkS(0.4). W(2), SO(2), OTL(0.5), SV(0.2), GA(-1), L(-1).

LW - Pactches, Benn, Ott, Foligno, Belesky
C - Staal, Thornton, M Richards, Giroux
RW - Ovie, Hossa, Callahan, Tara, Neil
D - Weber, OEL, Shatty, Seidenberg, Suter, Wiz, Beauch, Wiz, MacDonald
G - Lundqvist, Varlamov, Allen
Prospects - Schultz, M Rielly, Ramo, Brodin, RNH, Forsberg, D Shore, Trouba, Bjugstad
IR- RNH, Kulikov