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Old 04-04-2012, 11:47 PM
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If you're worried about the minutes and seconds, wait till like 10 or 15 mins before. but historically i've seen rosters locked a minute or two before the scheduled game time
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i think you have to do it.

For one, i say go down swinging. Better to play your guys who got you here than to sit them and lose.

You have to look at the matchup and they both favor you. Both goalies have two games left ( Quick - home and away with SJ and Rinne - Home to Dal and away to Col) and both play home games tomorrow and an away game on Saturday.

I think i would prefer to play them with them at home and then have the decision to sit them if i need to on their away game.

Home record:

Quick is 19-10-4, 1.62 GAA, 0.939 SV%
Rinne is 24-8-5, 2.39 GAA, 0.922 SV%

their road record:

Quick is 16-11-7, 2.17 GAA, 0.923 SV% (2 games - 2.43 GAA and .932 SV % in SJ)
Rinne is 18-10-3, 2.49 GAA, 0.921 SV% (1 game - 1.00 GAA and .970 SV % in Col)

Not bad road records but better home records. I would prefer to go with my studs at home. If for some reason you drop below in one of those categories, i would still feel confident with playing them on the road to finish it out.

To me its a no brainer, i start them and look to extend my league in those categories.
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If you're worried about the minutes and seconds, wait till like 10 or 15 mins before. but historically i've seen rosters locked a minute or two before the scheduled game time
Yeah I can't seem to find it in Yahoo's "Help" section. I even tried to create a new MLB league to see if they'd explain what the difference between all of the options are, but they do not.

It is definitely VERY close to game time; maybe I just assumed it was 5 minutes. Just be sure to have Quick either playing or benched (depending on what you need) with about 10 minutes to go because then if you get caught, you'll still have your desired play.
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Thanks guys - your posts have been immensely helpful. Thomas being out does help a ton.

I *think* the strategy here is:
1) bench Rinne for sure given his poor starts recently and his mystery "illness"
2) bench Quick to start the night...
3) keep a close eye on the vancouver game

4) if kipper is playing lights-out, then start Quick
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4) if kipper is shitting the bed - keep Quick on the bench

If anyone has any different views, please share... I have till tomorrow evening to decide.

Also... are you guys absolutely SURE that line-ups lock *5 min* before game time? I don't want to push it too close in case I miss it by a few minutes
I might be lonely in this opinion but i think i might start Quick no matter what. Probably bench Rinne though.

My logic, if Kipper is having a great game, i need Quick to play, but if kipper is having a shitty game that allows Quick to also have a shitty game and I am still in the lead but if Quick has a good game it makes me lock up the cats right here right now. The chances of Quick having a good game, especially this year, is pretty high.

I dont have to stress about it on the weekend. I can just sit my guys and be good.
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I dunno I have a bad feeling about Quick...

I've watched the last 2 Shark games and they seem to be getting a few lucky breaks with defensive breakdowns, being at the right spot at the right time, so I think the hockey gods are shining down on them after a pretty dreadful year.

I have a feeling they're going to score a few cheapies and win the division over the Kings.

That top line of Marleau, Pavelski and Thornton have really stepped it up the last week or so, and they're playing a very strong puck possession down low cycling game. I have a feeling they're gonna be hungry tomorrow night.

I just have a gut feeling about Quick not playing up to snuff tomorrow.
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:20 AM
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-I'm neck and neck for the championship in my Yahoo Winners' ROTO league with 2nd place (GOON SQUAD) - only 0.5 points in the overall standings separates us.
Jeez... I feel like I'm left hanging by a thread on the most interesting aspect... do you have a chance to catch this guy for 1st?

What is the impact on you IF he catches you? Could you slip to 3rd?

These are important questions.
At this point in the season, teams typically don't move more than 1 sv% point or .02 GAA with even a bad game. So it's not like he'll pass you... maybe just tie.


Point asking - are you in danger of falling below 3rd?
Or is there a way for you to catch him for 1st?

What are you really looking to achieve?

(Bench your goalies is my answer, BTW.)
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Jeez... I feel like I'm left hanging by a thread on the most interesting aspect... do you have a chance to catch this guy for 1st?

What is the impact on you IF he catches you? Could you slip to 3rd?

These are important questions.
At this point in the season, teams typically don't move more than 1 sv% point or .02 GAA with even a bad game. So it's not like he'll pass you... maybe just tie.


Point asking - are you in danger of falling below 3rd?
Or is there a way for you to catch him for 1st?

What are you really looking to achieve?

(Bench your goalies is my answer, BTW.)
It's just between him and I for first overall... I'm in first at 94.5 and he's at 94.0... the others have fallen behind by double digits. He can't gain ground in offensive cats because he's maxxed out on games, and I'm not really within striking distance of anyone else with the limited amount of forward games I have left. This will most likely be decided on goalie cats (unless I have a huge meltdown on +/- tonight).

We've been seesawing back and forth on the goalie cats for the last 2 months... he had a sizable lead on me until Timmy Thomas collapsed and Quick caught fire recently.

What I've found is that one single good/bad game can easily swing the GAA/Save % by 0.01-0.02. A shutout or a 4-5 goal game will move the ratios by 0.02 easily -even at this stage in the season with the large sample set.

I'd be interested to hear your rationale for benching both?
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mmmmm interesting dilemma. At first glance I would go with benching Rinne and watching Kipper's start. Regarding how much time before you have to bench or activate guys, realistically once Calgary is done the first period you will have to make your decision as the chances of them starting the second and leaving you much time left before the LAK start to make the bench/start call are slim. So basically you get a one period preview of Kipper. The kings are fighting to hold onto that 3rd spot so I think they will put forth a big effort tonight. If they lose they could end up 7th or 8th which would be disastrous. As for Rinne I think I would lean towards benching him. Nashville will want to win to get home-ice in the first round but with Detroits win last night its now out of their hands, add to that Rinne's illness or whatever and who knows if he even starts tonight and if he does will he be at 100%? (link - http://nashvillenewschannel.com/inde...medium=twitter ). You have the rare luxury of seeing what your opponents only starter is doing early on prior to your decision. If Kipper lets up 3 in the first you bench Quick.

Im interested in this dilemma so im gonna do some digging and see if it changes my mind.
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Is it a big $$$ league? Or just free?

If we are talking big $$$, here's what I do.
1. Get out your calculator.
2. Walk through EVERY start that your goalies have made. This will take a LONG time. Add up their minutes, shots faced goals against. (WHY?)

3. Yahoo won't break it down, but your goaltending statistics are truncated to a decimal number.
For example
0.9234999 save percentage = 0.923
0.9235001 save percentage = 0.924 (In other words... at some point, there is that ONE save that pushes you up a number. Obviously, ONE goal against pushes you down faster.)

I'm actually not sure if they are rounded up or rounded down.
I'm probably 1/1000 fantasy hockey people that do this in H2H leagues.
On Saturday night, I crunch goalie stats and check my goalies & his.

Then I can prepare "Cases":
I'll say, OK...
if GoalieX plays for me tomorrow and gives up 1 goal in 60min... I'll win GAA.
if GoalieX plays for me tomorrow and gives up 2 goals in 60min... I'll lose GAA.
(In the case above, I'd sit my goalie because it's more likely, 50%+, that he'll give up 2 or more goals)

I'm in a similar league... ROTO.
I got out to a huge comfortable lead in W & SO.
I had ups & downs and my opponents too.
One day, I had great games and my opponents had bad games.
I am currently at 0.920 SV% and 2.32 GAA
My opponents were at 0.919 SV% and 2.35 GAA.
Since then... I haven't started any goalies. (About 3 weeks ago, with Thomas/Halak/Hiller)
Now, I'm obviously still at 0.920 SV% and 2.32 GAA.
My opponents have fallen to 0.918 SV% and 2.36 GAA.

Lot of work... but it can give you a realistic calculation about whether he's going to catch you or not.

If your GAA is a smidge above a rounding line, then you don't want to risk it.
If your GAA is a smidge below that rounding line, then you may want to risk it.

Do you get all that? (Kind of confusing math stuff)
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