I say do it also. If someone holds it against you, its their problem. Why have the 4 player moves per week then if you cannot use them because it is "unethical"

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RW: Jagr, Purcell
D: Green, Giordano , Keith, Souray
UTIL: Burrows, Moulson, Bolland, fleischmann
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Nobody plays for second place, you will never live it down if you try to be the nice guy and don't make a stategic move that is accepted by the league rules. Nice guys finish last, or second in your league,

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16 team, 26 player H2H Dynasty keeper league.

3 games min a week start

Wins (W), Goals Against Average (GAA), Saves (SV), Save Percentage (SV%)

Do it. Don't look back!! Not breaking any rules.

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H.Sedin,Krejci,Backstrom,B.Schenn,Turris, Zajac
LWs:
B.Ryan, Wolski, Fleischmann, Stalberg, Conacher
RWs:
Semin,Williams,Eberle,L.Ericsson, Brunner
D:
Enstrom, Edler, Kulikov, Smid, OEL
G:Brodeur, Neuvirth, Holtby, J.Bernier

20 Prospects (NHL GP < 82/45)
Hertl, Shinnimin, Nyquist, Vey, Loktionov, Hagelin, Kucherov, Grachev, Eakin, Kuznetsov, Petrov, Vatanen, Connauton, Zharkov, Reinhart, Orlov, Ekholm, Kichton, Desjardins, Bishop, Cannata VET: Frolik

I have no problem with that kind of move. in fact, I'd be surprised if both GMs didn't do it. to add points. Its a no brainer.

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It is completely your right and it is competely ethical.

You have four moves a week so you have the right to use them whenever you want. By using them at the end of the week is not unethical in any way, shape or form. You are being strategic, that's all. The fact that these moves may have an effect on your matchup is largely irrelevant, as it's chance that the matchup has turned out this way. Is there some unwritten rule saying that if the matchup is close you cannot save them until the end? Of course not.

Gotlaid, I don't understand how you feel it could have consequences after the fact. It's not like he's streaming (within rules but many people don't like it), it's a set weekly move limit. There is nothing unethical about it. People who complain don't understand that it's a strategy, nothing else. Why shouldn't he use the moves that he and everyone else has the same opportunity to make? Everyone is on a level playing field.

If someone beat me using such a tactic, I would simply say: "well played".

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All I've got...all I've got is insane!

Doesn't matter if it's the first day of the week or the last day of the week. If you have the moves use it. This is what being a GM is all about. Making the tough calls to win. If you play and care about hurting the other GM's feelings then you might as well fold now. This is not even coming close to playing dirty. You have the moves to maximize your game's play then DO IT.

If you manage to not use any moves throughout the whole week that you've been playing and saving it for a rainy day, I'd say this is a good a day as any to use it before you lose it.

"If you ain't first, you're last"

I understand where Gotlaid is coming from, but this is a competition. Who's to say that they won't reject your offers even when you don't do this kinda move this year? People will always try to win whether or not it's a good trade. They won't do you any favors so don't do them any either. At the end of the day, it's a competition and you are here to win.

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C Marleau(C, LW) / J. Staal(C, LW)
LW Hall / Eriksson(LW, RW)
RW Selanne / Malkin(C, RW)
D Giordano / D. Boyle / Enstrom / Timonen
Util Ott(C, LW)
G Fleury / Ward
BN Varlamov / Hiller / Downie(LW, RW) / Purcell
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It's definitely within his right to do so as I stated before, it's not against the rules, IMO it's just not as black and white as most people are taking it to be.

All I'm saying is that depending on what type of league it is, there can be consequences... If it's just a public pool with nothing involved, then fair game... But there's money involved, so that complicates things. Or it might be a work pool, I don't know the situation... I mean it's not hard for something to "hang it over you" if they feel that got screwed outta something.

Your opponent might not react that way, and they might take it with the "well played" then everything is hunky dory... no hard feelings... but if by chance he takes it to heart, and he ends up holding a grudge, it's not hard for someone to do something stupid (reject a trade, or trade with another competitor instead of you...) later on if they feel that they've been screwed before.

I dunno maybe I'm just an odd ball that I'd rather win or lose with the team in hand than to rely on a last minute pick up strategy to win and have people hang it over me instead of thinking about what I did all season long...

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Well it's not just the last minute moves that win the leagues. It's the hard work that he made throughout the season and in the playoffs to get to this point. He wouldn't be there without a strong core. However, since everyone agreed to the four move per week rule, then nobody should complain how they use it.

I understand that some people may think it's cheap, but those people are just annoyed that they didn't win. If they don't want this to happen, then they should reduce the number of moves per week or even restrict moves entirely over the playoffs.

So what if you ended up winning our roto league? Should we complain that you constantly added and dropped players over the last couple of weeks to put you over the top? No, because you are using the settings to maximise your chances of winning. It doesn't matter if you made all these moves early or late, the rules are there and as mentioned everyone is on an even playing field. You may think it's a different situation but it's not. Everything done that leads up to the end matters, not just the final moves over the weekend, whether it's a H2H, roto or any other type of league.

Would people complain if he didn't end up winning? Of course not, it's only if he wins then someone with sour grapes may be upset.

I would not want to play with managers who complain about something that occurs within the rules. If you don't like it then don't put your money in and join. I have no sympathy for such managers who sulk after the fact.

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I dunno I think it's all up to interpretation right... People like to find scapegoats but rarely point the finger at themselves if they lose. I guess if someone pulls this off, the easiest thing for the opposition to do is to get pissed off at it, rather than looking at themselves for not using the strategy they blame someone else for using it.

Our situation I think is a bit different, I don't think I ever had a shot at winning it, I'm just streaming now to get back into some sort of respectability, hahaha. I'm trying to at least get back into third to be somewhat respectful after not paying attention to the league up until Xmas... I dunno to me if I won the league because I "outstreamed" you guys I don't think I'd be very proud of that, so what if I won the league if the winning strategy for me was to pick up as many guys as I could over someone else. I mean that's pretty BS IMO. if I wanted to beat you guys I'd want to beat you guys because I drafted better, made the right moves, or traded better than any one else in the league, not because I could pick up more players everyday to beat everyone else.

I guess there's the flip side of the coin too. I mean what would you do if you were in the boots of the other person. If you were in a H2H competition and you got beat because somebody else picked up 4 guys for a last minute Sunday match up, would you suck it up and say I got outplayed or would you kick up a fuss?

Don't get me wrong there's absolutely nothing wrong with using this strategy to maximize your chances of winning, all I'm saying is that not everyone has the balls to point the finger and find fault within themselves but there will be people out there that will hold a grudge. If you're happy making that decision while brushing away the consequences then so be it.

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Dobber Expert Pool Champion 2011-12

Either way it'll be interesting to see what Spoiler decided to do and what his opponent decided to do...

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