Hello Dobber nation!

I'm looking for some wily veterans (I'm looking to win this year, and I am looking for stability from my blueline) who will put up 40+ pts and rack up some PIM's this year (I was weak in this cat last year, and I'd prefer to get PIM's from my D as opposed from a FWD if possible.)

I have Green and Weber as my 2 D keepers, and I need to find 3 more D-men in our upcoming draft.

I think most of my league is going to be focusing on PTS, and if I can find a guy who puts up points along with solid PIM's, he's the guy I'm talking about. I'd prefer a guy like this over a Peckham type player as 20pts is probably too little if I want to make a push this year.

As always, REP for help.

Our keeper lists are due next week, and I'll be more specific with potential picks then. Just trying to make some lists now.

Thanks!

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10 team Keeper Roto league.
2012 CHAMP.
G/A/PIM/+-/GWG G:W/SO
Keep 9
Start 2C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4D, 2U, 2G, 4BN

C E Malkin (RW), C Giroux(RW), R Getzlaf,
LW I Kovalchuk, M Pacioretti, C Kunitz
RW Perry, B Wheeler, E Cole, T Purcell
D S Weber, K Letang, P Wiercioch, J Muzzin, B Burns
G I Bryzgalov, MA Fleury, O Pavelec

Usually I try to attend to the thread's question - but I'm going to try to sway you from this theory.

I really, truly think it is smarter to get your PIM straight from Peckham (as a last round pick) rather than lump them in with other defensemen.

Consider a 3-man group (1W & 2D):
You are trying to acquire 125pts & 250 PIM.

Option 1: (Focusing on 40pt D w/PIM)
Zdeno Chara, 45pts, 90PIM (probably need a 6th round pick to get him)
Brent Burns, 40pts, 80PIM (probably need a 8th round pick to get him)
Evander Kane, 40pts, 80PIM (probably use a last round pick on him)

Option 2: (Counting on Peckham for 10pts & 175PIM)
Thomas Vanek, 70pts, 40PIM (probably 7th round)
Ian White, 40pts, 35PIM (probably last round)
Theo Peckham, 15pts, 175PIM (probably 2nd last round)

Personally, I think one group of players will be much easier to obtain then the other group of players. That's why I like Peckham.

But... answer to your question: Chara & Burns.

These are some of the off the top of my head predictions for this year:

Subban 45pt 120PIM
Hamonic 35pt 120PIM
Burns 50pt 100PIM
Big Buff 40pt 100PIM
Chara 50pt 100PIM
Bieksa 40pt 110PIM
Hedman 35pt 80PIM
Doughty 55pt 80PIM
Pronger 45pt 70PIM

Lobo has a solid list - I would add Phaneuf and Letang as well.

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14 team roto(3C,3RW,3LW,5D,2G,5B,1IR-82 max games)
Cats-G,A,+/-,PPP,PIM,SOG,HITS,FOW,BLKS,W,SV%,GAA,SAVES

C-Toews,B. Richards,Hanzal
RW-Voracek,Stewart,Versteeg
LW-Benn(C),Clowe(RW),Pacioretty
D-Pietrangelo,Doughty,Burns,Ehrhoff,Gonchar
G-Rask,Lindback
B-Emery,Havlat,Coburn,Atkinson,Fiddler

7 team roto(3C,3RW,3LW,4D,1U,2G,4B,3IR-86 max games)
Cats-G,A,P,+/-,PIM,PPP,SHP,GWG,W,SV%,GAA,SO

C-Crosby,E.Staal,Pavelski(RW)
RW-Iginla,Clowe(LW),Wheeler
LW?E.Kane,Pacioretty,Semin(RW)
D?Letang,AP,Subban,Shatty
U-Getz
G-Rask,Ward
B?Kipper,Voracek,Moulson,Burns

Very interested to see what kind of multicat numbers hamonic puts up this year. Giordano and green pitch in with decent pims too (though I realize green is a pretty tough guy to acquire even at this "buy low" point of his career).

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16 tm pts only sal cap full keeper
F:Malkin, Spezza, Parise, Kessel, Mueller, Turris, Silfverberg, Boyes, Perreault, Shore, Backlund, Elias, Callahan, Burmistrov
D:MDZ, Carlson, Schultz, Josi
G:Fleury, Dubnyk
Farm: Jarnkrok, Dumba, Sproul
IR:
16 tm H2H keeper w/ contracts
G A +/- PIM STP GWG W SO GAA SV%
C: Benn[3], Spezza[2], Ribeiro[1], Brassard[1], Shaw, Forsberg
LW: Ryan(LW)[4], Marleau[1], Schwartz,
RW: Sharp(C)[1], Bennett, Coyle(C)
D: Goligosk[4], Letang[3], Edler[2], Hamilton, Rielly
G:Rask[2], Bobrovsky[1], Fasth
IR:

If you looking at the gutter levels, go no further than:

Mike Weber (BUF)
Clayton Stoner (MIN)

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12 Team NHL Salary Cap Dynasty -daily starts
H2H, Salary Cap 82mil, Player actual salaries (all)
+/-,G,A,GWG,PTS,STP,PIM,SOG,HT,BS,GAA,SO,SV,W
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies

Forwards: Fleischmann, Duchene, Ennis, Kessel, M.Koivu, Neal, Conacher, D.Sedin, H.Sedin, Bailey, J.Thornton, Bozak
Defense: Carlson, Gardiner, Kulikov, Franson, Dillon, MacDonald
Goalie: Rask, Crawford
Reserves: B.Schenn, Cowen, Fraser, Gryba, Brodeur, Emery, Pavelec
Prospects: Gallagher, Chiasson, Killorn, A.Larsson, Murphy, Rielly
Fantrax TAHL 2013 Champion

Engelland as well.

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14 GM H2H Salary Cap League (Salaries not Caps)
Stats:G A +/- PIM PPG PPA SHP GWG SOG FW HITS|W GAA SV SV% SHO
Start: 2C,2LW,2RW,4D,2UTIL,2G
Prospect Farm (<92GP skaters, <60 goalies)

Dobber Pro League Wales Division - Roto
Stats: G,A,+/-,PiM,PPP,SOG|W,GAA,Saves
Start: 4C,4L,4R,6D,2G (Weekly changes)
2010 - 3rd place
2009 - 3rd place

Adam McQuaid and Shane O'Brien are solid depth guys for PIM.

Most of the top guys for PIM/Points have been mentioned already but I would add James Wisniewski into the mix. 100PIM/50 point season is certainly possible if he can stay healthy. Though his PIM has been down the past few seasons but there's potential for solid PIM totals there.

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UHL Pittsburgh Penguins

24 Team Fantrax Salary Cap H2H Dynasty League Daily
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, Blks, FOW
W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
27 Man Minor Team

C- Tavares, Stepan, Hodgson, Shaw, Bjugstad
LW- Ryan, Perron, Downie, Killorn, Paajarvi
RW- Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Frattin, Rinaldo
D- Schultz, JJ, Bogosian, EJ, Josi, Cowen, Muzzin
G- Lehtonen

F: Granlund, Silfverberg, Jensen, Dalpe, Bowman, Knight, Fasth, JAM, O'Dell
D: Beaulieu, Koekkoek, Gelinas, Pysyk, McCabe, Irwin, Gryba
G: Nilsson, Poulin, Nilstorp, Ramo, Berra, Brossoit, C.Gibson

Thanks for the list - keep them coming!

All out of rep. Will hit the rest of you up tmrw.

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10 team Keeper Roto league.
2012 CHAMP.
G/A/PIM/+-/GWG G:W/SO
Keep 9
Start 2C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4D, 2U, 2G, 4BN

C E Malkin (RW), C Giroux(RW), R Getzlaf,
LW I Kovalchuk, M Pacioretti, C Kunitz
RW Perry, B Wheeler, E Cole, T Purcell
D S Weber, K Letang, P Wiercioch, J Muzzin, B Burns
G I Bryzgalov, MA Fleury, O Pavelec

A good late round option (due to an injury shortened season last year, he's way down on Yahoo lists): Marek Zidlicky. If you can absorb a small minus in the +/- category, he's about as consistent as they come for 40 pts, 70 PIM. He gets a decent number of PPP as well (20-25).

Again, in Yahoo mock drafts I've been taking him with my last pick (in 14 team drafts).

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16 team roti keeper (yr 5/5, keep 6)
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHG, SHA, GWG
W, GAA, SV%, SO
2c, 2lw, 2rw, 4d, 2g, 8bn

C: Stamkos, Backstrom
LW: Sedin, Landeskog, Ott (C), McGinn
RW: Purcell, Brunner, Stewart, Boyes (C), Hornqvist
D: Letang, Byfuglien, Streit, Carlson, Beauchemin, Barrie
G: Ward, Schneider, Ellis