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First Round Pick · #11 07-20-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by orangie6465

Heard the Flames offered Entry Level max to Erixon, he just didn't want to sign with the Flames. At least Feaster got something for him.

Curious about the signing bonus part though and how much he was looking for... but I had heard rumblings of that part of it too. Odd actually, something doesn't quite seem right there. In the end that deal becomes Erixon for Werek, Markus Granlund and Tim Wotherspoon (D, Portland). So I guess we'll see... Flames need some top-end prospects... but shouldn't complain - at least they now have a prospect group people have heard of.

torpedo · #12 07-25-2011, 09:23 PM

Good to see some Flames rep on the site. I live north of Calgary in so called "Oil Country" so I am an under the radar Flames fan.

What's your thoughts on the Regher deal? I know as a long time fan I was not happy with the return and feel like the Flames moved 2 top end Dmen in Dion and Regher and have very little to show for it. Thoughts? Also do you think the Flames will trade Iggy if they start to go south this year?

First Round Pick · #13 07-27-2011, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by torpedo

Good to see some Flames rep on the site. I live north of Calgary in so called "Oil Country" so I am an under the radar Flames fan.

What's your thoughts on the Regher deal? I know as a long time fan I was not happy with the return and feel like the Flames moved 2 top end Dmen in Dion and Regher and have very little to show for it. Thoughts? Also do you think the Flames will trade Iggy if they start to go south this year?

Well like most others, I was also disappointed in the return of Paul Byron and Chris Butler. But it has to be looked at with a small amount of realism. This was just as much of a financial transaction as anything... just as the Leafs took on Lombardi's salary in the Franson deal (also a deal widely panned), the Flames got rid of Regehr's salary plus eliminated Kotalik's $3 million salary as well. Unfortunately the new administration had to pay for the previous era's mistakes. So to get rid of $7+ million in salary, a 2nd had to leave and Byron and Butler was the most they could get.

Is it a good deal? I liked Butler two years ago as he left early from Denver, and he seemed to have some game. Last year was a regression though, so hopefully a change in scenery brings his game back to 2009 upside. Byron has been a good player who's overachieved... will he make a difference? Hard to say, he's a bit small and will need to show he can play... but the Flames need prospects and he's a top-10 guy now. The other thing to not forget is he may get a shot just because the new Feaster regime brought him in. They will give him a shot if he plays well.

As for Iggy, I just don't see him moving. The man is a mythical beast... this is where he started and I think management knows better than to trade their meal-ticket. Calgary is a bit more of a fair-weather crowd - trading Iggy will make corporate tickets harder to give away. That results in fewer renewals and the start of a potential death-spiral in support. Think about it, he's on Scotiabank commercials because he's viewed as a perfect family guy who normal people like to see. Even if the team isn't playing well! If he's on your team you don't trade that away. The only way I see that happening is if the two sides come together like Bourque did and make a mutual choice for the player at the start of a year... both sides came out winners in that deal, but it's rare. Very rare.

bondon · #14 07-27-2011, 09:47 AM

Hey Chad, really appreciate the efforts for covering the Flames.

I was wondering if I could get the lowdown on Tim Jackman. I know he's pretty much just a grinder/enforcer type player, but beyond that I don't know much about him other than he somehow always scores on Luongo when the Flames play the Canucks.

With guys like Ivanans and Kostopoulos on the team, is there any chance Jackman gets shortchanged here? Need to know because I'm relying on Jackman to pile on some peripheral stats (PIM/Hits/Blks) and chip in with the odd point in a depth role. He had a pretty good year last season but he's going to end up being a pressbox regular then I might need to plan for it. I'm assuming barring injury Jackman has no hope of being anything other than a fourth liner this season, as the top 9 seems to be pretty much set with Iginla Langkow Tanguay Stajan Hagman Moss Bourque Glencross Jokinen.

I think I remember seeing Jackman playing quite well with Moss and Glencross on a line.

Thanks bud!

First Round Pick · #15 07-27-2011, 12:07 PM

From the games I watched with Jackman, I would personally give him a leg up on Ivanans and Kostopoulous. Ivanans got KO'ed that first game so it's hard to say what he could have brought, but Jackman stepped it up and contributed offensively at times as well like you mentioned. He seemed to relish the opportunity, and definitely fulfilled every expectation they had for him coming in to last year. He also became a bit of a crowd favorite as well...

I think you should be safe counting on him for the peripherals and the odd move up when one of the top lines needs some more physicality.

Also, don't be surprised if Hagman gets dumped in the AHL like Kotalik last year... the return on the Phaneuf deal continues to haunt Calgary.

First Round Pick · #16 07-30-2011, 02:20 AM

I've been a big fan of the Copper and Blue for Oilers coverage, but this site is beginning to really start showing some similar quality coverage for Flames fans.

This week's coverage:
Discussion of the statistical deficiencies of a certain Flame goaltender compared to the rest of the league, a quick breakdown of the Canadian U20 camp in Edmonton, and some quick Flames forward analysis from last year. Let's not forget, this forward group is virtually the same going in to this year. Good reading for sure, and a site you should be checking our regularly.

http://flamesnation.ca/

Riverboat Danglers · #17 07-30-2011, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by First Round Pick

I've been a big fan of the Copper and Blue for Oilers coverage, but this site is beginning to really start showing some similar quality coverage for Flames fans.

This week's coverage:
Discussion of the statistical deficiencies of a certain Flame goaltender compared to the rest of the league, a quick breakdown of the Canadian U20 camp in Edmonton, and some quick Flames forward analysis from last year. Let's not forget, this forward group is virtually the same going in to this year. Good reading for sure, and a site you should be checking our regularly.

http://flamesnation.ca/

flamesnation and copper and blue are 2 totally different sites. copper and blue is part of sb nation which has a sports blog site for pretty much every major team.

oilersnation is the one i think your referencing. there is just about a nation site for every canadian team now

First Round Pick · #18 07-30-2011, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by diamondback87

flamesnation and copper and blue are 2 totally different sites. copper and blue is part of sb nation which has a sports blog site for pretty much every major team.

oilersnation is the one i think your referencing. there is just about a nation site for every canadian team now

My apologies, it was Lowetide I was thinking of at around 1:00 am... great breakdowns of individual prospects and players, as well as some interesting historical stories.

First Round Pick · #19 08-05-2011, 12:49 PM

Here's some info tweeted about earlier, from Flames On Demand, this one chatting with T.J. Brodie about general stuff. Continue down the page for chats with Sarich, a look back on Iggy's draft day 16 years ago (??) and some other things.

http://video.flames.nhl.com/videocen...d=11&id=121573

One interesting side-note from Brodie's interview. They let it slip that Giordano is a bench-press machine. Looking at him you wouldn't think he's that strong, but according to Brodie he can bench press 310. (for those of us gym rats, that means he bench presses 3 plates a side)

First Round Pick · #20 08-15-2011, 02:08 PM

Another good synopsis from FlamesNation regarding the Scott Hannan signing:

http://flamesnation.ca/2011/8/13/sco...rtunity-knocks

I have to agree with many of the points made. He's signed to a very friendly contract, $1 million for one year, and replaces a bunch of the traits Regehr had. He will definitely be counted on to solidify the shut-down role, so whether he fits with Sarich as a shut-down team will be interesting to see. He's a left handed shot and presumably will play the left side, though Sarich is also listed as a LD. And Hannan has had over 800 NHL games yet is only 32... I didn't realize he was that young still.

That moves the rest of the d back a step, and looking at the depth chart I have to feel a bit better about it. You would think Bouw and Gio play together to start, hopefully with Giordano asserting himself (to the coach) as the top offensive d. Babchuk falls to the 3rd pairing but I don't have a problem with that. That leaves Butler, Mikkelsson and Carson to fight for the last spot. Butler needs to have a good training camp and assert himself quickly. That would leave Brodie in the minors for one more year to develop what is hoped from him, being a top-4 D who can play a solid two-way game.

So as of right now, I can see the Flames going with a familiar approach of keeping 8 D and 13 F on the playing roster. That means Kostopoulos stays as the 13th F and both Leblond and Ivanans head to Abbotsford. I know Ivanans was brought here for a reason but they already have a player better than him in Jackman who can do all the little things needed. Ivanans stays if Hagman is waived.

In the end, not a monster signing, but it's at least one with little risk and makes the team better. Flames fans have to at least be happy with small victories right now.

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