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mapletreemarty · #11 05-20-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by indianapwns

Thanks for doing this - I'm looking forward to reading this thread all summer.

I'd love to hear any developments with regards to Calvin Pickard. I'm hoping he is the long term plan for Colorado in net though I know its almost impossible to say one way or the other...

Pickard is definitely in the long term plans for the Avs and they do not want to rush him. The plan is for him to go back to Seattle where he faced 40+ shots/game last season.

Shakedown · #12 05-20-2011, 12:25 PM

Good Stuff Marty. Welcome to the team. I have sticky threaded this for ya. Look forward to seeing all your Ave's info

GMGates · #13 05-20-2011, 02:25 PM

Thanks Shake - was just going to do it.

Well Marty, looks like you've already made this place feel like home - love it!

Glad you decided to join the team and represent the Avalanche.

Good luck and enjoy the ride

GMG

GMGates · #14 05-20-2011, 02:26 PM

That said, how does the EJ vs. Shattenkirk / Stewart deal really affect the Avs going into next season? Do you think Jones can make up for Stewart's loss up front?

MoreCanadianTeams · #15 05-20-2011, 02:57 PM

Hey Marty,

Great to see you doing team coverage, usually my 1st stop after Ramblings. Look forward to your posts, as the Avs are an intriguing club fantasy wise.

tgraveline · #16 05-20-2011, 03:34 PM

I still think the trading of Stewart was one of the biggest mistakes they've ever made as an organization. Stewart was a stud across the board. I'd kill to have him on the Sharks. I like EJ's upside for the future, but sending Shattenkirk as well was a slap to the face to the Avs fans. They were so close to be a solid playoff team and that set them back. I'm still confused as to what they were thinking with that one.

Sportfreunde · #17 05-20-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GMGates

That said, how does the EJ vs. Shattenkirk / Stewart deal really affect the Avs going into next season? Do you think Jones can make up for Stewart's loss up front?

In terms of goals, yes, 30 goal potential but not the same ceiling.

Also in regards to losing Stewart, they could've kept him and drafted Larsson instead of trading for EJ. The problem I have with EJ is that although he's been better since he came over to Colorado than how he was in STL this year, he still makes some stupid plays when he's going through the neutral zone. I dunno if his offensive ceiling is high enough to be an elite number one dman although he will be on Colorado. Now they're gonna likely draft a winger or convert a centre like Huberdeau to wing which isn't as effective as drafting Larsson and keeping Stewart. They may draft Larsson regardless and I wouldn't expect him to do much offensively any time soon and it wouldn't be good for Barrie/Elliot's production (Gaunce/Chouinard have some offensive potential too).

Whether or not Fleischmann re-signs imo will be a bigger factor for 11-12 than whether they draft a forward with the 2nd pick or not (the 11th pick is likely gonna be sent back to junior). I think the Avs should take a forward with the 2nd pick and a dman with the 11th, possibly Siemens.

mapletreemarty · #18 05-20-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GMGates

That said, how does the EJ vs. Shattenkirk / Stewart deal really affect the Avs going into next season? Do you think Jones can make up for Stewart's loss up front?

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Originally Posted by Sportfreunde

In terms of goals, yes, 30 goal potential but not the same ceiling.

Also in regards to losing Stewart, they could've kept him and drafted Larsson instead of trading for EJ. The problem I have with EJ is that although he's been better since he came over to Colorado than how he was in STL this year, he still makes some stupid plays when he's going through the neutral zone. I dunno if his offensive ceiling is high enough to be an elite number one dman although he will be on Colorado. Now they're gonna likely draft a winger or convert a centre like Huberdeau to wing which isn't as effective as drafting Larsson and keeping Stewart. They may draft Larsson regardless and I wouldn't expect him to do much offensively any time soon and it wouldn't be good for Barrie/Elliot's production (Gaunce/Chouinard have some offensive potential too).

Whether or not Fleischmann re-signs imo will be a bigger factor for 11-12 than whether they draft a forward with the 2nd pick or not (the 11th pick is likely gonna be sent back to junior). I think the Avs should take a forward with the 2nd pick and a dman with the 11th, possibly Siemens.

Jones can replace Stewie in terms of being a 30g 30a type of player...Stewart definitely has higher upside than that, but Jones doesn't take any shifts or games off. That was the main thing management noticed during their losing streak this past winter. It became very apparent that the Avs also get manhandled in their own zone. They haven't had that 6'3" 220lbs presence in their own zone since Blake left.

There is a premium to pay for d-men with that size, who can eat up 26-28 mins per night, that are mobile like EJ and can chip in offensively. Not to mention the potential of being a first overall pick. Personally I believe EJ has more offensive upside than Larsson. Just for those wondering why the Avs did not just stand pat and draft him.

With Jones stepping up management felt that Stewart was expendable and with the emergence of Pietrangelo left a small window of opportunity to grab EJ.

The Avs have a history of going off the board in the draft.. So that 11 pick could be another surprise, or someone falls out of the top 10 to them like Fowler and Gormley last season.

Also I would keep an eye out for Ryan Stoaa lot of people are giving up on him, but he is a late bloomer and is on a similar development curve as Jones was, who didn't do much until he was 24.

Look forward to talking more Avs with you guys as the draft draws near.

Thanks for all the welcomes!

mapletreemarty · #19 05-20-2011, 06:44 PM

Also the Avs need a game breaking forward and that is what I could see Huberdeau turning into. The kid finds a way to score when his team needs it most. Stewart does not have that ability, he can't do much without a strong supporting cast.

MoreCanadianTeams · #20 05-20-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mapletreemarty

Also the Avs need a game breaking forward and that is what I could see Huberdeau turning into. The kid finds a way to score when his team needs it most. Stewart does not have that ability, he can't do much without a strong supporting cast.

You'll need to fight Big Ev for him, he's gone on record in the Sens thread with his prediction. May the best poster win

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