i just took over this team in a cbs keeper daily lineup mulitcat league. its the same set up as the 2nd team in my sig but a totally different team. imo this team is a mess and has great prospects like mckegg, tatar, kreider, orlov, eakin and schultz but no real depth anywhere other then net. so i decided to blow things up and start the good ol rebuild

i traded

malkin and de haan

and i got

tavares, rundblad, toffoli and 15th overall

thoughts on trading one of the more elite players in the game with a really bad knee situation

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defencmen-edler,staal,gilbert,keith,suter,oleksiak,schultz,c lendening,sproul,gragani
goalies-rask, campbell, holtby
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D-Edler,Kronwall,Goligoski,Timonen,Campbell,Potter
G-Howard,Vokun
Farm-Petterson,Jarnkrok,Saad,Baberio,Diaz,McNeill,Merri ll,Dekanich,Markstrom,Gallagher

Toffoli is about as valuable as De Haan, so it comes down to Malkin for Tavares, Rundblad and 15th overall. I really like both Tavares and Rundblad but I think you could have had more with Malkin. But it's not a bad trade if that was the best offer you got.

Well you got some FOW in the deal. I know it's always nice to get a big return for a guy like Malkin, but the reality is that his value is softening with the last couple of seasons. I think you did alright. Yes, you might have got more but you didn't - onward and upward.

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3C: H. Sedin,Stepan, Stastny, R. Johansen, Hanzal, Anisimov,
3LW: Burrows, Vanek, Ott, Lupul, Dubinsky
3RW: Doan, Pavelski, Brown, Okposo,
6D: Franson, Doughty, Voynov, Subban, Markov, Gonchar, Karlsson
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2G: Price, Emery


Farm: (< 100 games): S. Elliott, J. Bernier, Galchenyuk, Etem, Eakin, Atkinson

interesting trade. think you could have gotten more for Malkin, looks like an undersell. I think he'll outscore Tavares every single season, id rather have him. and i'm not really sure if the two guys you got back are nearly enough

FYI--- i got Malkin+ from him a week or two before you took over the team for Tavares+. he also got Green in that deal, so after swapping Tavares/Malkin again, he got Green for really really cheap. clever move by him.

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D: Letang, Subban, Fowler, White, Leddy, Staal
G: Miller, Halak

Farm: Reinhart, de Haan, Beach, Kuhnhackl, Kabanov, Jenner, Vatanen, Dillon, Wedgewood, Matthew Hackett

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G: Quick, Pavelec, Harding

Farm: Tangradi, Lack, Bjugstad, Schroeder, Dillon, Friberg, Gaudreau, Finn

ya i know he told me that lol, i would of kept tavares. to me knee injuries are really serious. i could of had a couple different of packages but i felt like i really needed to get a sure fire guy. i feel that tavares will be a 50 goal man and he is only going up.

if malkin regains his old form and doesnt get injured much then i lose big time but im lookin at a bure type of player here imo. i personally dont think he will ever be the same hockey player again. the ligaments he tore in his knee are very serious imo. i went through the same injury. not to say im malkin but to be able to turn and have agility nevermind take a hit into the boards and open ice u need really strong knees. i also feel that after this incident teams are gonna target his knees. there is players in the league, yes i know pittsburg has the worst one but players that are gonna go after other teams best players and try and knock them outta the game. for me its just a matter of time before his knees start going out on a regular basis

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goalies-rask, campbell, holtby
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G-Howard,Vokun
Farm-Petterson,Jarnkrok,Saad,Baberio,Diaz,McNeill,Merri ll,Dekanich,Markstrom,Gallagher

also this team has the 2nd overall pick this year and most likely the first overall pick next year, so i think after adding a larsson/rnh, yakupov tandem while letting rundblad, elliot and schultz develop i may be ready to climb up the ladder

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goalies-rask, campbell, holtby
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D-Edler,Kronwall,Goligoski,Timonen,Campbell,Potter
G-Howard,Vokun
Farm-Petterson,Jarnkrok,Saad,Baberio,Diaz,McNeill,Merri ll,Dekanich,Markstrom,Gallagher

Don't understand the logic of trading Malkin now. Injured, bad season. Value is incredibly low.

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Simply put, I dont think you got enough for Malkin.

De Haan is no slouch and still has the allure of a top-end prospects. Rundbald is probably closer and a bit safer in terms of his NHL future but nonetheless, both are a risk.

Toff and the pick are okay I guess.

I understand you are rebuilding but my issue is that you didn't really get enough "safe" or proven talent for Malkin. The knee is a bit worrisome but he still is easily a top 3 fantasy player (Stammer isn't there yet lol).

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yea, i think you were way too wary of the injury here. malkin is still elite and one of the best players in the world. he is in tip-top shape and will most likely recover 100%. even after i acquired him i was getting some real nice offers for him.

either way, what's done is done, and changes had to be made to that team. good luck getting them to a level where they can compete!

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D: Letang, Subban, Fowler, White, Leddy, Staal
G: Miller, Halak

Farm: Reinhart, de Haan, Beach, Kuhnhackl, Kabanov, Jenner, Vatanen, Dillon, Wedgewood, Matthew Hackett

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D: Doughty, Wideman, Bieksa, Zidlicky, Martin
G: Quick, Pavelec, Harding

Farm: Tangradi, Lack, Bjugstad, Schroeder, Dillon, Friberg, Gaudreau, Finn

I think its great value for damaged goods.

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