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Old 07-31-2012, 12:57 PM
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If he's stacked then obviously he's looking to make moves like yours, trade excess parts for upgrades or picks. It was likely rejected because it is a backwards move. Would you accept the trade if you were in the Pens fan's position?
Yes, because he has 7 or 8 elite kids/keepers, and then his other 4 keepers are stiffs. Whereas I have 18 real quality keepers and I need to pare them down.

If he were to sub in Eric Staal for Benn, and tweak one of the picks lower, I would still do it. His adding Letang, Staal and Eriksson to his team would be huge. Helps both of us.
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Those a little down on St. Louis, and that seems to be a lot of you -

He had 52 points in his last 50 games. Don't underrate what is left in the tank. If he gets 75 I get what I want. But I think he'll get 85.
I think people get blinded by age that they ignore production...which is actually something I'll be touching on in a little while possibly in article form.

I'll gladly take Martin St.Louis where others don't want him.
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Yes, because he has 7 or 8 elite kids/keepers, and then his other 4 keepers are stiffs. Whereas I have 18 real quality keepers and I need to pare them down.

If he were to sub in Eric Staal for Benn, and tweak one of the picks lower, I would still do it. His adding Letang, Staal and Eriksson to his team would be huge. Helps both of us.
He's likely getting blinded by the potential of Tavares (for much the same reason you want to grab Tavares). That's an offer he should take. Either of them. Especially if he has 4 keepers that are low end. I mean all logic says do this trade, it's good for both sides. He loses a great keeper, but gains three, letting him drop 2 of his 4 crappy keepers. Actually I'd be hesitant to do this deal from your end. Your essentially arming him for a run at your title.

Maybe you did something to piss him off though :P
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Yes, because he has 7 or 8 elite kids/keepers, and then his other 4 keepers are stiffs. Whereas I have 18 real quality keepers and I need to pare them down.

If he were to sub in Eric Staal for Benn, and tweak one of the picks lower, I would still do it. His adding Letang, Staal and Eriksson to his team would be huge. Helps both of us.
Yes I saw later that he only has 8 true keepers out of 12 slots, not sure why you're so proud of stepping on David when you are clearly the Goliath lol. But now that you've cleared that up it seems a no brainer barring positional depth issues.
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Still with that "KEEP 12" league I mentioned in the Carey Price thread, I had this trade offer rejected:


I give:
Jamie Benn, Loui Eriksson, Kris Letang

I get:
Tavares, 2nd round pick this year, 3rd round next year.


This was to a Penguins fan who has Crosby and Malkin. Yeah, he's stacked. But I beat him last year.


For what it's worth, here are my keepers:

Eric Staal, Kopitar, Benn

Kovalchuk, Giroux, Neal, St. Louis (thanks to the Price trade)

Letang, Shattenkirk

Smith, Anderson, Dubnyk


CUSP: Eriksson, Enstrom, MDZ
I'd like to trade Letang, Benn and Eriksson to upgrade Benn... and then keep Enstrom and MDZ.



Other assets: Strome, Kuznetsov, Conacher, Fleischmann, Visnovsky, Vermette, Johansen, S Kostitsyn, Williams and Berglund.
Sorry for being late in replying (out of country), but I would not make this deal. I REALLY like Tavares (and his ceiling could hit 90), but Benn is not far behind (80 point ceiling). Plus giving up a 50+ point D in Letang and the most consistent scorer the Stars have seen over the last 3-4 years. Not worth it. My humble opinion.
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LW - Kovalchuk, Skinner, Boedker, Lupul, Vanek, Elias, Baertschi, Mcdonald
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