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Old 10-17-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default gagne etc for kovalchuk etc.

13 teams deep, points only. we keep 4 forwards for next year.

a guy has expressed interest in my gagne, the deal he is proposing is as such:

my gagne, handzus, and one of bouchard or prospal

for

his kovalchuk, lombardi, ruutu

thoughts?

btw, my other keepers would be joey t, cheechoo, and juwilliams, as well as either kovy or gagne depending on the deal.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default gagne etc for kovalchuk etc.

I think Kovalchuk is a big upgrade on Gagne long term (and possibly short term as well), and getting rid of Handzus is a bonus since he\'s currently 3rd line and no PP time. I think I would take the deal as you\'re getting the best player.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default gagne etc for kovalchuk etc.

It\'s pretty close. I like Kovalchuk over Gagne long-term although they could easily be a wash this season given the quality of linemates. I think Lombardi and Handzus might be really close also and Lombardi seems to be getting the better ice time.

It\'s the Prospal part that bugs me some as I think he\'s worth close to 80pts this year [Ruutu\'s a big question mark]. Probably this simply makes the whole thing about even though b/c at the end of the day you recieve the better keeper.

Could go either way. See if he\'ll come down some otherwise pick up Kovalchuk.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default gagne etc for kovalchuk etc.

thanks for the insight guys.

this pool is in year 1 of 2 so whoever i keep, i only get for the this year and next. does that change any opinions?

also, i was thinking about coming back at him with erat instead of prospal or bouchard, because i share the same sentiments as you, andrew.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default gagne etc for kovalchuk etc.

First of all the length of your pool does nothing to change my opinion of the trade. When you only get to keep 4 players for the next season you want to try to get the best possible combination of players with the most upside and highest probability of achieving it. All that to say you should still acquire Kovalchuk.

BTW I like the Erat compromise as I think Bouchard and Prospal have a higher probability of hitting the 70-80pt mark this year.
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Default gagne etc for kovalchuk etc.

andrewklassen wrote:
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It\'s pretty close. I like Kovalchuk over Gagne long-term although they could easily be a wash this season given the quality of linemates. I think Lombardi and Handzus might be really close also and Lombardi seems to be getting the better ice time.

It\'s the Prospal part that bugs me some as I think he\'s worth close to 80pts this year [Ruutu\'s a big question mark]. Probably this simply makes the whole thing about even though b/c at the end of the day you recieve the better keeper.

Could go either way. See if he\'ll come down some otherwise pick up Kovalchuk.
I complete agreement here.
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Default gagne etc for kovalchuk etc.

deal is done boys.

he went for the erat option.

thanks for all the help!
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