How would you rank these three players in a keeper league? Dobber has them as follows:

Zach Parise
Derek Roy
Jonathan Toews

I would have personally ranked them in the reverse order, particularly long term. And maybe Roy, Parise and Toews for this year only. What are your thoughts and who would you draft first?

Thanks in advance for your input, my draft is tomorrow.

Sly

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12 Team Partial Keeper League (Keep 7F, 4D, 2G)
Scoring: pts(1); +/-(1); PPG,SHG,OTG and GWG(+1); W (2); OTL (1); SO (3)
Forwards: Kovalchuk, Zetterberg, Backstrom, Derek Roy, Iginla, Vanek, J. Carter, Zherdev, Hudler, Smyth, Clowe and Radulov
Defense: Boyle, Rafalski, Martin, Carlson, Stralman, Babchuk, Wisniewski and White.
Goalies: Brodeur, Kipprusoff, Neuvirth and Crawford
Active Roster of 9F, 6D and 2G (moves every 2 weeks)

Short term:

Parise
Roy
Toews

Long term:

Parise
Roy
Toews

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12 Team "Experts" Roto representing Dobberhockey 2nd
G,A,PPP,+/-,SOG,Hits,Blocks,Wins,GAA,SV% - Keep 4
4C-Kopitar,M.Koivu,Stepan,Matthias,Prospal
4L-Marleau,Steen,M.Foligno,N.Foligno,Morrow,Umberger
4R-Hossa,Hornqvist,Little,Alfredsson,Oshie
6D-Byfuglien,Phaneuf,Doughty,J.Johnson,Burns,Wideman, Kostka,Methot
2G-M.Smith,Backstrom,Reimer

12 Team Salary Cap Roto Dynasty 3rd (G,A,Pts,FPts,DPts,Pim,SOG,H,BS,W+OTL+SO,GAA,SV%)
12F-Ovechkin,Kopitar,P&E Kane,Kessel,Ryan,M&N Foligno,Ennis,Hodgson,Killorn,Horton,Wolski,Morrow ,Bonino
6D-Subban,J.Johnson,Carle,Wizniewski,Franson,Spurgeon ,Kostka,M.Fraser
2G-Rask,Anderson,Emery
Farm-Markstrom,Scrivens,Brunner,Nyquist,G.Bourque,B.Con nolly,T.Barrie,Brennan,Barberio,Orlov

Parise is the GUY in NJ this year. he will get all the big minutes.

Toews will need a year to develop and Roy is on a good time bit has to share with big supporting cast. take Parise.

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12 team roto

Datsyuk/Getzlaf/Stillman/Backstrom/Demitra
Gagne/Perry/Vanek/Gionta/Radulov//Morrow/D Brown
Visnovsky/T-kaberle, enstrom, byfuglien, edler, meszaros, robidas
giguere, lehtonen, labarbera

Farm-Turris, J Bernier

I agree Parise is in line for a huge year. He will be on the top line and I expect the same for Roy, with Briere and Drury gone. Toews has the hype, but I have to think that he won\'t match those guys at least this year.
This year- Parise, Roy and Toews
A few down the line- Parise, Toews and Roy.

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I must admit that I am a bit surprise by the overwhelming vote for Parise, even long term. I definitely agree that this year Parise and Roy will greatly outscore Toews, but I\'ve alays seen Toews with the higher upside. Granted that the other two are proven at the NHL level, but I really don\'t see much risk in Toews. Even Dobber has their upside as follows:

Toews = 95
Parise = 85
Roy = 85

Also, if you factor in the teams they play for, I wonder who it favors. Parise plays for a notouriously boring defensive New-Jersey team, while Roy play for a slightly reduced but still potent offensive powerhouse in Buffalo, and Chicago is going to look pretty strong offensively soon with Kane and Havlat to play with Toews.

With all that said, I really appriciate everyone\'s info, as the above are only my thoughts and sometimes it is great to that off your bais blinders and take into consideration other opinions.

Sly

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12 Team Partial Keeper League (Keep 7F, 4D, 2G)
Scoring: pts(1); +/-(1); PPG,SHG,OTG and GWG(+1); W (2); OTL (1); SO (3)
Forwards: Kovalchuk, Zetterberg, Backstrom, Derek Roy, Iginla, Vanek, J. Carter, Zherdev, Hudler, Smyth, Clowe and Radulov
Defense: Boyle, Rafalski, Martin, Carlson, Stralman, Babchuk, Wisniewski and White.
Goalies: Brodeur, Kipprusoff, Neuvirth and Crawford
Active Roster of 9F, 6D and 2G (moves every 2 weeks)

My draft is tonight, any other last minute opinions between these three? Who would you pick in a keeper league?

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12 Team Partial Keeper League (Keep 7F, 4D, 2G)
Scoring: pts(1); +/-(1); PPG,SHG,OTG and GWG(+1); W (2); OTL (1); SO (3)
Forwards: Kovalchuk, Zetterberg, Backstrom, Derek Roy, Iginla, Vanek, J. Carter, Zherdev, Hudler, Smyth, Clowe and Radulov
Defense: Boyle, Rafalski, Martin, Carlson, Stralman, Babchuk, Wisniewski and White.
Goalies: Brodeur, Kipprusoff, Neuvirth and Crawford
Active Roster of 9F, 6D and 2G (moves every 2 weeks)