hey guys we are running a keeper pool since couple years now and we were wondering about trading rule...(normal rules)

should Gm pay when they are trading player. Or trading should be free? Do we want to have a lot of trade or less trade possible....When we trade a player should we bring his total of points or not???

What are yours thoughts about it

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Keeper League( 10 gm), 1 goalie + 1 team, pt only

PURCELL, CONACHER, , EBERLE, GIROUX, SUTER, BENN, OSHIE, TAVARES, J.STAAL, BERGERON, WHEELER, DUPUIS, MUELLER,ELIAS, BERGLUND, BRUNNER,STREIT,CALLAHAN

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BENCH:
RHN,PAAJARVI,KUZNETSOV,J.SCHULTZ, C.ATKINSON,VOKOUN(G)

superluke wrote:
Probably a good idea as long as it\'s small compared to the upfront fees ie: $0.50/$20. Also depends on how easy it would be to collect the fees as well...

Usually a player doesn\'t bring his points totals with him but that might be dependent on the scoring system.

Trading should be free. The idea is not without merit, but it creates extra work for the Commish.

First you need to find out what the majority of YOUR poolies want. Do they want lots of trades or only a few? I personally hate it when you see a team trade almost every player from his drafted roster. I like to try and mimic the NHL in some small way and you definitely don\'t see teams turning over their entire rosters on a yearly basis.

As for bringing the points with them, if you\'re keeping track yourself, it\'s more work. Depends on your pool setup and rules. Ideally, I would prefer that they start fresh with their new teams.

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12 Team "Experts" Roto representing Dobberhockey 2nd
G,A,PPP,+/-,SOG,Hits,Blocks,Wins,GAA,SV% - Keep 4
4C-Kopitar,M.Koivu,Stepan,Matthias,Prospal
4L-Marleau,Steen,M.Foligno,N.Foligno,Morrow,Umberger
4R-Hossa,Hornqvist,Little,Alfredsson,Oshie
6D-Byfuglien,Phaneuf,Doughty,J.Johnson,Burns,Wideman, Kostka,Methot
2G-M.Smith,Backstrom,Reimer

12 Team Salary Cap Roto Dynasty 3rd (G,A,Pts,FPts,DPts,Pim,SOG,H,BS,W+OTL+SO,GAA,SV%)
12F-Ovechkin,Kopitar,P&E Kane,Kessel,Ryan,M&N Foligno,Ennis,Hodgson,Killorn,Horton,Wolski,Morrow ,Bonino
6D-Subban,J.Johnson,Carle,Wizniewski,Franson,Spurgeon ,Kostka,M.Fraser
2G-Rask,Anderson,Emery
Farm-Markstrom,Scrivens,Brunner,Nyquist,G.Bourque,B.Con nolly,T.Barrie,Brennan,Barberio,Orlov

Charging for trades, even if it\'s a token amount, could discourage trading - if for no other reason than the bureaucratic effort in keeping track of expenses by the GM and the Commissioner.

As for player points being transferable, it might not be a good idea either - in that scenario, the value of the player is dependent on what he\'s already done, rather than what he could do for you. Seems... counterintuitive.

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I had a trade fee in one of my pools last year but have since changed it going into this year. It\'s much easier I find to just tack on 5-10 bucks to the entry fee at the start of the year than it is to collect money on the back end once people have won/lost.

It didn\'t seem to discourage trading too much, but in the end it was kind of unnecessary for the amount of money that ended up being collected.

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12 Team Dynasty League w/ Salary Cap (Updated: 3/23/2011)
(CBS Sports Commissioner's League)
Maximum Salary Cap: 70.5 million
Roster Limit(s):
Total: 23 + 2 available IR slot
Active: C, C, C, W, W, W, W, D, D, D, D, G, G
23 + 1 Man Roster (69.62 million) - 17 Keepers
- Crosby (IR), Carter, Tavares, Duchene, Anisimov, Desharnais
- Ovechkin, Giroux, Downie, Hall (LTIR), Tanguay, Samuelsson, Whitney, Justin Williams, Zuccarello
- Green, Phaneuf, Doughty, Letang, Carlson, Karlsson
- Price, Halak, Neuvirth, Varlamov
Scoring Setup: W, L, GA, Saves, SO
G, A, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHG, SHA, SOG, GWG, HT, FOW

We tried implementing a fee for trading a couple of years ago, and it really handicapped the amount of trading compared to previous years.
I like Lak\'s take on just adding x amount to the original fee.
As for a player bringing his points with him, I personally do not like that idea. Pools are won and lost on a player(s) tanking or getting hot..
My 2 cents...

we have a trading fee , two bucks per trade , has\'nt seemed to bothered anyone too much.

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Roto type keeper league.We keep any 6 ;15 teams , 3 div. of 5.We play 3 lines , 3 def. and start 2 goalies.6 BN.Stats are 1pt. for goals and assists , 2pts. for W , tie(O.T. or S.O. loss) 1pt. S.O. 1pt.Weekly line-up from Mon. to Sun.

LW - Malkin
LW - J. Skinner
LW - T. Ennis
LW - Conacher
LW - Raymond
C - Matthias
C - M. Richards
C - V. Filppula
C - Vermette
RW - B. Schenn
RW - M. Read
RW - J. Huberdeau
RW - M. Gaborik
Def. - Pietrangelo
Def. - B. Smith
Def. - Diaz
Def. - OEL
Def. - Stoner
G - Louongo
G - Markstrom
G - Neuvirth

I\'ve really been thinking about this rule too. My new keeper pool is just starting and people are already concerned about this rule. From what I can see this rule really affects how your pool works and runs. It really depends alot on which website or system you are using to keep track of stats. Based on the idea that I will be using a website that requires me as Commish to enter all the data; I\'ve come up with a little pro\'s and con\'s list.

Split scoring (player starts at zero with new team)

Pros: -Seems more realistic

Cons: -Kind of promotes early season trading. Late season trades won\'t
have much impact. Trade deadline boring.

-Alot more work for owners and commish. Trades become much more
\"time sensitive\". As commish guys are going to want their trades
updated quickly and regularly. If you have unlimited trading
owners will be wanting to update their line-ups all the time
replacing injured guys, moving guys back and forth from reserves,
trying to maximize # of games played, etc.

Replacement scoring (players bring pts with them.)

Pros: -As commish less work. Enter data whenever. As owner you don\'t
always have to be checking to see if you have the right guys
activated.

-Creates a \"stock market\" kind of pool. The players are like
commodities with current values and future potential.

-I like the idea that late in the season Top teams will be
making deals with teams at the bottom. Trading off their young
prospects for aging veterans with points. In effect the Top
sell off their futures for the win this year while bottom teams
rebuild. Very much how it happens in the NHL. (I can\'t see
these types of deals happening with Split scoring. Who is
going to want an aging veteran late in the season in a Keeper
pool?)

-Makes for an exciting Trade deadline.

Cons: -Doesn\'t seem realistic. Some people don\'t seem to like the idea
that you can just make a trade and jump up in the Standings


Personally I like the idea of traded guys taking their points with them. It seems so much more simple and relaxed. I can remember using split scoring in a yearly pool and even though we could back date trades it always seemed like someone was complaining about the points not being right. With replacement scoring there\'s no confusion.

I notice that Dobber\'s pool uses the Replacement style scoring.

I guess it really comes down to what kind of pool you want to be running and how committed your friends are.

Maybe some others with more experience could provide some insight.

It really comes down to what you want in your pool. Split scoring is more realistic, but replacement encourages more trading, especially late in the season. If you want to mimic the NHL, less trading probably makes sense, but I find the enjoyment in a Keeper League is the trading, so I want to encourage it.