I still need some explanations about his rank 16th in Dobber\'s list.

Since he never played a complete season as #1, I think it\'s a overrated rank. I still agree though that it would be a steal if you can add him to your roster in a late round pick or so.

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G: Price, Pavelec
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TG wrote:
I agree on the LA and CHI comments, though I think you\'re forgetting something in reference to the Washington comments. You mentioned Washington\'s propects, but you forgot about Kolzig. This guy is already 37 years old, and yet he\'s started at least 50 games every year since the 1997 season. He is a tremendous athlete and hardly ever gets hurt (I don\'t remember his last significant injury). He\'ll be around for years to come... lol.

Hell, they could give him a cane at age 65, and he\'d still probably be effective. Well maybe that\'s a bit excessive, but he\'ll be around for at least a few years yet... and bryzgalov is what? 27? Why would washington do this? They\'ve shown that they\'re rebuilding through their system... I don\'t remember the last trade they made, where they had something good coming in return.

Is this an Eklund rumor or something? LA, CHI, and WAS? REALLY???

Maybe the list should\'ve been TB, CLB, EDM and maybe it would\'ve made sense.

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12 Team Dynasty League w/ Salary Cap (Updated: 3/23/2011)
(CBS Sports Commissioner's League)
Maximum Salary Cap: 70.5 million
Roster Limit(s):
Total: 23 + 2 available IR slot
Active: C, C, C, W, W, W, W, D, D, D, D, G, G
23 + 1 Man Roster (69.62 million) - 17 Keepers
- Crosby (IR), Carter, Tavares, Duchene, Anisimov, Desharnais
- Ovechkin, Giroux, Downie, Hall (LTIR), Tanguay, Samuelsson, Whitney, Justin Williams, Zuccarello
- Green, Phaneuf, Doughty, Letang, Carlson, Karlsson
- Price, Halak, Neuvirth, Varlamov
Scoring Setup: W, L, GA, Saves, SO
G, A, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHG, SHA, SOG, GWG, HT, FOW

TB and CBJ make sense. I hope it is TB though. Lanky, you mentioned Edmonton. I hadn\'t heard that Roloson had fallen out of favor. Is that why they got Garon? They already have Markanen. Is Garon a step above Markanen as backup?

I am thinking that Burke is not going to move Bryzgalov until he has a clearer picture of his team. i.e. What are Schneider and Selanne going to do? That will give him a better idea of what he needs.

I think that TB would have more to offer him. I would love to see Brad Richards in Anaheim.

I agree on the LA and CHI comments, though I think you\'re forgetting something in reference to the Washington comments. You mentioned Washington\'s propects, but you forgot about Kolzig. This guy is already 37 years old, and yet he\'s started at least 50 games every year since the 1997 season. He is a tremendous athlete and hardly ever gets hurt (I don\'t remember his last significant injury). He\'ll be around for years to come... lol.

as i said is it pure speculation on my part but with few exceptions teams rarly hand off their goaltending duties to unproven rookies. with the talented young teams la chi and wash have put together it would make sense that they get a proven goaltender while their prospects develop properly. while you are right it may not happen it would make sense as a bridge between whats there and whats to come. as for kolzig his age is starting to show, missing time twice last year due to knee trouble. and yes khabby is proven but chi is trying to unload him most likly wont happen till at least christmas if at all due to salary considerations if at all.

It\'s funny you mention Richards in Anaheim as I was starting to think that as I was reading this thresd. It makes sense on Tampas part if they could land it- resolve their cap/goalie issues in one fell swoop. Definitely an interesting thought...

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C(3)- Malkin, Carter, Little, Huberdeau, Galchenyuk
W(6)- Perry, Nash, Yakupov, Voracek, Wheeler,Cammalleri, Okposo, Hemsky
D(4)- Green, Weber, Hedman, Vishnovsky
G(1)- Lundquist, Rask
Goal/sog heavy- daily changes- slight bonus for pims- No +/-
Keep 12.

Richards to the Ducks? No way. From Tampa\'s prespective maybe but why would Anaheim want that? They need the cap space down the road to sign Perry and Getzlaf. They only way that could happen is if Anaheim can unload a bucket full of contracts the other way.

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lanky522 wrote:
Actually, I completely agree, and that is part of what makes their goaltending situation work out so nicely. Kolzig has put together consecutive seasons in which, had he led a better team, he would have been in contention for the Vezina. If he can last another 3-4 seasons (and I wouldn\'t put it past him) then they\'ll have the chance to let him mentor one or more young prospects before retirement. I\'m hoping that Fernandez (a lesser goalie, but still a veteran) can do the same for TR in Boston.

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reeveta wrote:
I actually think that richards would be huge for the ducks... They don\'t really have a \"marquis\" center... McDonald is good, but he\'s really just a serviceable sort of guy. Richards leads teams in the playoffs better than most in the league. He\'s still young and ANY team should jump at the chance to get him if he goes on the trade block.

I don\'t think that this will ever happen, but I was just saying that at least Bryzgalov going to TB would make at least a little bit of sense...

Post edited by: lanky522, at: 2007/07/22 11:15

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12 Team Dynasty League w/ Salary Cap (Updated: 3/23/2011)
(CBS Sports Commissioner's League)
Maximum Salary Cap: 70.5 million
Roster Limit(s):
Total: 23 + 2 available IR slot
Active: C, C, C, W, W, W, W, D, D, D, D, G, G
23 + 1 Man Roster (69.62 million) - 17 Keepers
- Crosby (IR), Carter, Tavares, Duchene, Anisimov, Desharnais
- Ovechkin, Giroux, Downie, Hall (LTIR), Tanguay, Samuelsson, Whitney, Justin Williams, Zuccarello
- Green, Phaneuf, Doughty, Letang, Carlson, Karlsson
- Price, Halak, Neuvirth, Varlamov
Scoring Setup: W, L, GA, Saves, SO
G, A, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHG, SHA, SOG, GWG, HT, FOW

TG wrote:
Well put... I\'ve actually enjoyed living in the d.c. area because I\'ve been given the chance to watch \"Olli the Goalie\" play a lot.

You are quite right on the vezina comment though... if he had a team in front of him, he would\'ve won at least one vezina. He is a tremendous talent and it\'s quite hard for me to believe sometimes that he\'s one of the oldest players in the league.

It\'s a shame to that he\'s as loyal and has stuck with washington over the years, because his numbers are no where near what they should be considering his level of skill. Hugely under-rated goalie over the years.

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12 Team Dynasty League w/ Salary Cap (Updated: 3/23/2011)
(CBS Sports Commissioner's League)
Maximum Salary Cap: 70.5 million
Roster Limit(s):
Total: 23 + 2 available IR slot
Active: C, C, C, W, W, W, W, D, D, D, D, G, G
23 + 1 Man Roster (69.62 million) - 17 Keepers
- Crosby (IR), Carter, Tavares, Duchene, Anisimov, Desharnais
- Ovechkin, Giroux, Downie, Hall (LTIR), Tanguay, Samuelsson, Whitney, Justin Williams, Zuccarello
- Green, Phaneuf, Doughty, Letang, Carlson, Karlsson
- Price, Halak, Neuvirth, Varlamov
Scoring Setup: W, L, GA, Saves, SO
G, A, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHG, SHA, SOG, GWG, HT, FOW

I hate to disagree with guys who know a lot more about hockey then me but how would it be possible to fit Richards in Anaheim? Even if it could be done this year at the trade deadline it is not possible for 2008-2009.

2008-2009 salaries (cap hits actually) from www.nhlnumbers.com:
4.000 Bertuzzi, Todd
3.333 McDonald, Andy
6.750 Niedermayer, Scott
6.250 Pronger, Chris
5.625 Schneider, Mathieu
6.000 Giguere, J.S.

That is 32 million tied up in 6 players.

Now, the main reason why Richards can’t fit Anahiem: Perry and Getzlaf. They are due for big raises. Assuming they continue to improve next year there is no reason why they shouldn’t get Hemsky (4.1) or Horton (4-mil) like money. Let’s say Burke can turn water into wine and gets the pair signed long term for 3.5 million a piece (Getzlaf and Perry should fire their agents). There is another 7 million.

Let’s assume that an NHL team needs 22 players and that next years cap will be 52 million.
So the Ducks would have 39 million tied up in 8 players. That leave 13 million for the remaining 14 guys? Do you really think Anaheim can make that happen? 14 guys on the team making less then 1 million on average? That means for every guy that makes 2 million 2 guys have to make league minimum. (I haven’t even counted contracts like Marchant (2.5 million), Rob Niedermayer (2 million), Beauchemin (1.65 million) because I am giving Burke the benefit of the doubt that he could get out of those deals with clever trading.)
Add a Richards in there and that eats up another 7.8 million? – then it actually becomes mathematically impossible instead of just practically impossible to put a team on the ice.

So there is no way that Anaheim can take on any more big contracts until 2009-2010 when they lose a few contracts. I would even state the opposite: they need to get rid of one ‘big’ or two ‘less-big’ contracts this year or they are in trouble for next year. Niedermayer retiring might do it for them but he wouldn’t free up enough space to add Richards.

Now I suppose that Burke could do it by overhauling a major part of his core (like moving Pronger or Giggy) but why would he do that since he just won the cup.

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