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03-22-2013, 01:13 AM
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And since Danny F'ing Cleary hasn't grabbed a hold of anything pretty much all year long, you'd think Gus would be taking his spot more often than he has (he hasn't at all, really). I know that Holland signed a bunch of guys, they have extra contracts, they legitimately can't keep the kids up on the Wings. So why even suggest that they could stick (and make such a ridiculous cal ripken reference) when they obviously can't, and aren't getting the opportunity to? Babcock just frustrates me, sometimes, and I wish he'd just stop mincing words. Tell the kids they didn't even have a chance when the season started, but that they'd get time in as injury replacements to show their stuff and try to understand the speed of the NHL, and that perhaps next year they'll both be up. I seriously hope they've had that discussion. I think the wings need some offense to lighten the load off Dats and Zetterberg, but there's nothing escept inconsistent Filppula and inconsistent Brunner to help. No team...no team needs to ice Cleary, Abdelkader, Miller, Tootoo, Emmerton, and Andersson. And Eaves would have been in there instead of Gus if he was healthy. I mean, i get that Samuelsson (not that he'd likely be any better), Helm and Bertuzzi are injured, but if some of the guys you were relying on for offense go down with injuries, you try to replace that offense by brining in someone who can provide it, not Drew Miller or Danny Cleary and his injury that he's playing through but selfishly won't go to the IR in order to make the team better. Tatar played well. He deserves to be up there. Andersson...I thought his first few games were pretty poor aside from winning faceoffs, yet he stuck (and I think he's improved as the season's gone on). Nyquist has has the odd game here or there and hasn't been able to establish a rhythm, which is hard enough to do when your linemate is Danny Cleary, and often Andersson. Tatar at least was able to play with Andersson and Eaves, who is at least healthy. I'd say Tatar's first 5 games were better than Nyquist's first 5, but Tatar got to play 5 games in short succession, get acclimated. Nyquist played once jan 22nd, once Feb 15th, 2 games on march 13th and 15th, and now he's back here on the 20th...and yeah, he's still looking average, but he's producing, when he's allowed to play. I don't see why they can't sit a vet to give these kids some consistent playing time. It's obvious that the wings are in a re-stocking period, getting more youth on their team. It's time to play that youth, let them grow. There is such a thing as an over-ripe prospect. Nyquist and Tatar have proven all they can down in the A, they need time to adjust to the speed of the NHL. They can't get that if they're playing spot duty in the bigs and spending the rest down in the AHL.
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03-22-2013, 01:43 AM
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Tatar may have only been more impressive because his 5 games were 1,2,3,4,5 in a row....Nyquist played one in Jan, one in Feb and three in a row so far ....
I hear ya with the Cleary and Abdelkader comments though..it's quite frustrating. I do have to say they're more trying to rebulid on the fly and not a true rebuild like say....Edmonton (who still suck)... Babcock has his ways. He wants a big body on a line with Pavel and Zetterberg all of the time, hence Abdelkader and Cleary (or Bertuzzi when healthy). It's always been that way and right now Im not sure I agree with the stubborness.....because they're clearly struggling to score. Im pumped Im finally not working for a stretch so I'll be able to watch both Wings' games vs the Ducks this weekend.
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03-22-2013, 10:18 PM
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Well...I wish your wings luck against the ducks. They'll need it. Maybe Miller can do something in the top 6...maybe the Emmerton-Eaves-Nyquist line won't be a black hole.
Would have been nice to keep nyquist with familiar company, keeping him with Andersson and having brunner around might have been interesting. Alas... Well, either way, I came out of last season hoping Nyquist would have a decent shot, and after this offseason, I figured he'd have a 30% of sticking. I just hope that % increases over this offseason, and Tatar can get in as well.
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#44
03-23-2013, 08:57 AM
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ESPN just gave Nyquist RW. TY very much. Now let's work on Marcus Johansson,
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03-23-2013, 09:35 AM
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There is so much concern on the Wings, especially now that P Dat has announced his impending retirement for next season.. I hope he changes his mind or that was just a crazy rumor. I'm sure he knows the Wings aren't winning a cup in the next two-three years.... I agree it is hard to keep guys up when you have so many "vets" that eat up roster space. What happens when Helm comes back? Babs said he is one of his 4 four offensive players.. WTF is that... I liked Nyquist last season, I thought he looked really good and should have stuck with the team. Tatar was looking really good this year and I thought he should have stayed up. I don't like cleary either. I think his time is done in the NHL. I bet Andersson goes down when Helm comes back...
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#46
03-23-2013, 10:01 AM
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Datsyuk hasn't announced anything.
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03-23-2013, 10:05 AM
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03-23-2013, 11:17 AM
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It's still just a rumor, though. For all we know it might be a test by management to see how the fanbase reacts. My take is that it seems legit enough, but it's still not set in stone until Datsyuk himself says anything.
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03-23-2013, 11:46 AM
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Then again, I think Datysuk could play productive hockey at 45!
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