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I've been pumping this guy's tires ever since he was drafted but he hasn't got a lot of recognition until recently. Well it's time to start paying closer attention... Evander Kane is an absolute stud.
First off, just a few notes/stats: T-2nd EV Goals with 8 (behind only Stamkos) and T-1st on Team T-5th in EV Points with 16 (behind Patty Kane, Hodgson, Crosby, Vanek, and Stamkos) and 1st on Team 1st in EV SOG Spends 41.67% of his shifts alongside Burmistrov (7 points) and Antropov (8 points) and 20.17% of his shifts alongside Jokinen (6 points) and Antropov (8 points) 18 points in 19 games, and has only gone without a point in 3 games this season ...and only has two points on the powerplay. His equivalency based on age throughout his career (WHL and NHL) has been unreal - I won't get into it as I believe HPG did an in-depth explanation at some point. Let's compare his linemates to those ahead of him in EV: Evander (16 EV Points) vs. Antropov (6 EV points) + Burmistrov (7 EV points) = +3 points vs. combined linemates Patty Kane (16 EV Points) vs. Sharp (9 EV points) + Bolland (6 EV points) = -1 points vs. combined linemates Hodgson (17 EV Points) vs. Vanek (18 EV points) + Pominville (11 EV points) = -12 points vs. combined linemates Vanek (18 EV Points) vs. Hodgson (17 EV points) + Pominville (11 EV points) = -10 points vs. combined linemates Crosby (18 EV Points) vs. Kunitz (14 EV points) + Dupuis (11 EV points) = -7 points vs. combined linemates Stamkos (20 EV Points) vs. Purcell (13 EV points) + Conacher (14 EV points) = -7 points vs. combined linemates Aside from Hodgson and Evander, all these players also have at least 8 PPP (P Kane - 8, Crosby - 12, Stamkos - 10, for an average of 10) and sit top 6 in league scoring. All these teams also have a PP in the top half of the league while Winnipeg sits at 22nd. Now this is a stretch, but if you put Evander on an equivalent PP (and thus an equivalent # of PPP) he would jump to 3rd in NHL scoring, behind only Crosby and Stamkos. Now, let's look at his year to year progression (82-game extrapolation): 09-10 (18 yo): 17 goals, 15 assists, 32 points 10-11 (19 yo): 21 goals, 27 assists, 48 points 11-12 (20 yo): 33 goals, 30 assists, 63 points 12-13 (21 yo): 39 goals, 39 assists, 78 points I'd like to take a brief moment to compare this to Jarome Iginla who has 11 consecutive 30+ goal seasons, is 35th all-time in goals scored, one of only 3 active 500+ goal scorers (Jagr, Selanne being the other two), two-time Rocket Richard Winner, and Art Ross winner. Yea, that's a pretty damn high bar. But... In his draft year, Iginla put up 33 goals, 38 assists, 71 points in 72 games to go along with 111 PIM. Kane put up 48 goals, 48 assists, 96 points in 61 games to go along with 89 PIM, only 10 goals shy of Stamkos' totals in the OHL in the same GP (57 goals, 57 assists, 114 points in 72 games pro-rated). Everyone else in the top 10 WHL goal scorers that year was at least a year older than Evander. Iginla didn't make the NHL until he was 19 and put up almost identical numbers to Evander's 19 year old season (pro-rated) - 21/27/48 vs 21/29/50. Iginla didn't have his first 30 goal season until he was 23; Evander's first was as a 20 year old. It's too early to make direct comparables as there's not enough data yet.... but what I'm saying is Evander Kane has shown a number of things: 1) He's an elite EV player, despite terrible linemates - easily the worst set of linemates of the top 5 EV scorers, and that includes Dupuis/Kunitz. 2) Based on a few seasons of stats, he's projecting to be on a level with one of the best goal scorers of all time in Jarome Iginla. 3) He's top 25 in league scoring despite having (significantly) fewer powerplay points than every other player in the top 25. ...and to boot, he's one of the best multi-cat players around. Last year he posted 53 PIM, 173 hits, 31 blocks, 4 game winners, and 287 shots on goal. This year he's on pace to surpass all those numbers in an 82 game season. A lot of guys peg him as a 70+ point player, but everything he's done to date in his career has shown he has 90+ upside. Last edited by dyzfunctioned; 02-27-2013 at 02:06 PM. |
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Just a quick blurb I dug up from HPG as well:
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I have not been on this site very long dyz, but I have kept a keen eye on your posts and as a Kane owner I would like to thank you.
btw... your above post is A+ material... very insightful, full of info with a strong point to make... I can only hope to get to your level... in the mean time ill stick to my "who would you rather " posts ...lol rep 4 u!!! |
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Just watch highlights of his 3 pts last night. Like the best players, he doesnt need anyone else to create for him. He's a lock for 40+ goals when he gets top PP and a decent centre.
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Interesting read. I've been a fan of the guy for a couple of years now (his offseason pic was hilarious). Given that Angus just did his top 10 lw keepers, do you feel he should be rated higher? Also,would you trade a guy like Backstrom to acquire him?
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12 Team Keeper (1 per position). Start two per forward position, 3 D, 1 Goalie, 1 Util G=1.5, A=1, PPP/SHP=0.5, W=2, SO=3 C-Giroux, Backstrom LW-Parise, Tanguay RW-Ryan (lw), Purcell (lw), Parenteau, Iginla D-Karlsson, Streit, OEL, Burns, Salo G-Rask, Smith Rookie- Galchenyuk, Granlund |
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I made a trade for E. Kane in a full keeper league a couple weeks back. I am still happy I made the move:
J. Neal and Peverley for E. Kane and Silfverberg.
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He has all the physical tools to be an elite player in the NHL. In my opinion the only question mark regarding Kane reaching elite levels is whether he will mature enough and learn to work hard and dedicate himself to the game as players like Crosby do. If he does that the sky is the limit.
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ASKL - 10 Team dynasty,G/A=1,PIM=.1,+/- =.2 SOG=.05 (W=2,SO=3) Keep 12F 6D 2G 8BN + farm F-Perry,Ryan,Giroux,Stastny,Ribeiro,Krejci,Plekanec, JvR,Bergeron,Fleischmann,Grabovski,Cammalleri D-Letang,Chara,Edler,Boyle,Giordano,Gardiner, G-Rinne,Crawford Bench-Bernier,Reimer,Parenteau,Callahan,Downie,Kulemin, Meszaros,Nikitin Farm- Namestnikov,Khoklachev,Rundblad,Despres,Jensen, L.Adam,Barberio,Galiev,Telegin,Hertl,Aberg |
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Good read dyz. I had just posted minutes before you asking about Kane's value, so great timing! Guy in my pool is asking for Yakupov and Sam Gagner for him. Part of me feels that's actually a reasonable asking price, although his lack of PP production makes me hesitant short term. No doubt he is a stud though.
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NHL 12 Team Full Keeper, Roto G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG, SOG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO C - Crosby,Getzlaf,Granlund LW - Pacioretty,E.Kane,Hartnell RW - Backes,Simmonds,SamGagne D - Letang,Byfuglien,Subban,Hamilton G - Lundqvist,Fleury,Schneider,Bryz IR - Kovy MLB 9 Team Full Keeper, Roto R, H, HR, RBI, SB, BB, K, AVG, W, L, SV, BB, K, ERA C - Lucroy 1B - Butler 2B - Kinsler 3B - Middlebrooks SS - Andrus OF - Trout,McCutchen,Kemp Util - Altuve,McLouth BN - Gyorko,Profar SP - Price,Gio,Moore,Harvey,Miller,Bailey RP - Chapman,Frieri,K.Jansen,Bell,Tazawa DL - Beachy,Pineda |
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In a multi-cat keeper, he'd probably be my #3 behind Ovechkin and Parise. |
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Deeper multi-cat league though, I'd take Kane over Yakupov 9 times out of 10. |
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