Banner
Fantasy Sports Forums - Dobber Sports  

Go Back   Fantasy Sports Forums - Dobber Sports > Hockey Prospects > General Prospect Discussion
Login at DobberHockey

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #71  
Old 02-20-2013, 09:38 AM
Dean Youngblood's Avatar
Dean Youngblood Dean Youngblood is online now
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 11,132
 
Location: Sarnia
Rep Power: 25
Dean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond repute
Dobber Sports Grand Master
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbabybuda View Post
Two more to throw your way Dean since you were so helpful with the other guys. What the heck is wrong with William Butcher and J.T. Compher this year? Was wondering if you've seen them play at all this year? There stock seems to be plummeting.
Compher hasn't plummeted but he has been passed by other players with more intriguing skillsets. I have only caught a few video viewings of Compher but he comes as advertised - smart, two-way responsible forward with good versatility.If he slides too far into the second round, he is going to make a VERY good value pick. Good NHL likelihood.

Butcher has had a trying draft year but his offensive potential from the blueline remains among the best of this draft class. There's some refining to do defensively but he's going to be one of those late 2nd-3rd round picks that a team drafts to "develop". I caught him a few times via video and he was "okay" (not great...skating needs improvement).
__________________
"If you lose the last game of the season, no one gives a shit"




Reply With Quote
  #72  
Old 02-20-2013, 10:00 AM
Dean Youngblood's Avatar
Dean Youngblood Dean Youngblood is online now
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 11,132
 
Location: Sarnia
Rep Power: 25
Dean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond repute
Dobber Sports Grand Master
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shamblaow View Post
Loving this thread Youngblood. If you don't mind, what are your thoughts on some guys from the 2011 draft class that haven't really taken drastic steps forward this season.

Zack Phillips (MIN) - 2G, 12A and -13 in the AHL
Tomas Jurco (DET) - 6G, 7A and -4 in the AHL
Michael St. Croix (NYR) - 28G, 40A and +22 in WHL.

Phillips and Jurco seem to have struggled adjusting from their stacked QMJHL team to the AHL. Do these players still project as top 6 forwards for their teams? I'm assuming Phillips ETA is closer than Jurco based on how the Wings treat their prospects?

St. Croix isn't scoring at the same pace as he was last year in the WHL. Last year he led this powerhouse in scoring by a fair margin. This year, he is 3rd. Is this due to Henrik Samuelsson coming into his own? Do you see this guy playing in the NHL as a top 6 forward in the future?
Phillips was a dominant junior player who was allowed to do his "thing" so his adjustment to the AHL isn't surprising. The Wild will be working with him to develop his "total" game and that will take some time. I wouldn't worry about seeing too much production until year two in the AHL.

Jurco was a high risk-high reward pick. Offensive players take time to figure out how to make things "work" through trial and error. He may take some time...or never get it. One promising trend is that Jurco is shooting a lot, especially in recent games.

St. Croix has actually had good development and is a prospect I like but his statistics have been a bit odd. I don't think Samuelsson would cause that but it could be a chemistry issue. St. Croix and Samuelsson are skating alongside one another actually. I haven't watched too much of the Oil Kings this season to be honest.
__________________
"If you lose the last game of the season, no one gives a shit"




Reply With Quote
  #73  
Old 02-20-2013, 10:03 AM
Dean Youngblood's Avatar
Dean Youngblood Dean Youngblood is online now
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 11,132
 
Location: Sarnia
Rep Power: 25
Dean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond repute
Dobber Sports Grand Master
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
One more for ya, and I will even lob ya in an easy one.

what are your thoughts on Matthew Murray and his development this year in the Soo.
Murray was one of my favourite netminders last season when he backed up Jack Campbell in the Soo. He's a lanky kid but very athletic. The one knock against Murray is that he is either great or poor, so he needs to improve his game to game consistency. Playing infront of a solid D-line certainly doesn't make him look bad either. He has promising skills but needs a lot of refining and seasoning. He is definitely a long-term investment for Pittsburgh
__________________
"If you lose the last game of the season, no one gives a shit"




Reply With Quote
  #74  
Old 02-20-2013, 10:06 AM
Dean Youngblood's Avatar
Dean Youngblood Dean Youngblood is online now
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 11,132
 
Location: Sarnia
Rep Power: 25
Dean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond repute
Dobber Sports Grand Master
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by His Dudeness View Post
Thanks for taking questions. In the league in my sig I've got a few prospects I really like, but who are not helping me this year as they're in the AHL or barely playing: Sgarbossa, Oleksiak, Vatanen. I'm thinking I'm not going to get anything out of these guys this season (let me know if you disagree on any of them) in which case I may move one for a temporary plug for this year - how do you rate them in terms of guys you'd most / least want to own in a full keeper.
Vatanen I like the most.
Sgarbossa should develop into a serviceable complementary forward and you might get some value from him this season

Oleksiad comes with great pedigree but I am not sure if his offensive game will ever flourish so if he ever gets caught on a hot streak, I would consider moving him for a more valuable fantasy asset (sell high).
__________________
"If you lose the last game of the season, no one gives a shit"




Reply With Quote
  #75  
Old 02-20-2013, 10:26 AM
Dean Youngblood's Avatar
Dean Youngblood Dean Youngblood is online now
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 11,132
 
Location: Sarnia
Rep Power: 25
Dean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond repute
Dobber Sports Grand Master
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by austeane View Post
Do you know of any really fantasy relevant undrafted (or late round pick) players coming through the college ranks?

Do any of these guys have a shot at being fantasy relevant? (14 teams, 21 players, G, A, +/-, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHP, SOG, FW, GWG, and hits, can keep on farm until they have played ~90 games, salary cap league).

Glennie YES, but limited and running out
Deslauriers As a backup, yes
Grachev, YES
Matthew Finn HUGE Yes (big believer)
Mursak meh
Spencer Abbott No
Brian Flynn No
Harri Sateri Yes, not a starter likely
Alex Stalock See Sateri. His competition
Freddie Hamilton No. Limited fantasy worth IMO

You don't have to give me a writeup, as that is a decently long list.. Just a simple yes or no (maybe say more for the maybe's haha).
I am not as tied into the college ranks but I have heard names like: Dan Dekeyser (D - DET invite), Kenny Morrison (D), Chris Casto (D- def. D), Andrej Sustr (D - 6'8"), Nate Schmidt (D), Eriah Hayes (F - Hawks invite), Ryan Walters (F), Austin Czarnik (F), Drew LeBlanc (F), Rylan Schwartz (F), Mike Boivin (D)


see bolded above for your second answer
__________________
"If you lose the last game of the season, no one gives a shit"




Reply With Quote
  #76  
Old 02-20-2013, 10:29 AM
Dean Youngblood's Avatar
Dean Youngblood Dean Youngblood is online now
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 11,132
 
Location: Sarnia
Rep Power: 25
Dean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond repute
Dobber Sports Grand Master
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rrabbit View Post
What are your current thoughts on Brett Connolly. He was drafted 6th overall by Tampa back in 2010, but hasn't found his place in the Tampa top6 yet despite having plenty of chances there. Currently producing well in the AHL though.

Do think he'll live up to the huge expectations or should owners start to get worried?
Stevie Y is creating competition throughout the Lightning organization and that hasn't helped Connolly. Him being selected 6th overall (Stevie's first 1st round pick) and his age (20) still are working in his favour but eventually he will need to crack the roster full time, especially with the likes of Namestnikov, Kucherov, Richard coming up over the next few years.

His AHL production is very promising and I think it's smart of the TBL to have him there this year giving more opportunity to it's mature prospects (Conacher, Killorn, etc.).

Next year he should be ready to step up. Keep your expectations leveled (60-70P player) for Connolly in his prime and you should be fine
__________________
"If you lose the last game of the season, no one gives a shit"




Reply With Quote
  #77  
Old 02-20-2013, 10:36 AM
Carcillo's Avatar
Carcillo Carcillo is online now
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,482
 
Rep Power: 53
Carcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond reputeCarcillo has a reputation beyond repute
Dobber Sports Guru
Default

Hey Dean,

Could you tell me your opinion on Nathan Beaulieu and Slater Koekkoek? Where do you see their upsides, got any player comparisons for them (playing style and/or future multi-cat production) and what do you see their ETA's?

Thanks.
__________________
UHL Pittsburgh Penguins

24 Team Fantrax Salary Cap H2H Dynasty League Daily
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG
, Hits, Blks, FOW
W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
27 Man Minor Team

C-
Tavares, Stepan, Hodgson, Shaw, Bjugstad
LW- Ryan, Perron, Downie, Killorn, Rinaldo
RW-
Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Frattin, Boyes
D- Pietrangelo, JJ,
Bogosian, EJ, Josi, Cowen, Muzzin
G- Lehtonen

F: Granlund,
Silfverberg, Jensen, Dalpe, Bowman, Knight, Fasth, JAM
D: Beaulieu, Koekkoek, Gelinas, Pysyk, McCabe, Irwin
G: Nilsson, Nilstorp, Ramo, Berra, Brossoit, Gibson
Reply With Quote
  #78  
Old 02-20-2013, 05:08 PM
NikW71's Avatar
NikW71 NikW71 is online now
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 394
 
Location: Stratford, ON
Rep Power: 8
NikW71 is a jewel in the roughNikW71 is a jewel in the roughNikW71 is a jewel in the roughNikW71 is a jewel in the roughNikW71 is a jewel in the roughNikW71 is a jewel in the roughNikW71 is a jewel in the rough
Dobber Sports Initiate
Default

I'll form my question like Austeane. Any of these players have any fantasy relevance ... Simple yes or no will suffice

Stats are G, A, PPP, SHP, GWG, +\-, SOG, FW, W, GAA, SV, SV%

Jerry d'amigo
Brendan Ranford
Teddy Bluegar
Patrick Holland
Max Reinhart
Nikita Gusev
Daniel Catenacci
Kyle Beach
Jeremy Morin
Allen York

Thanks for doing this for everybody
__________________

16 TM H2H DYNASTY G A +- PIM PPG PPA SHP FW SOG
Hits Blks GS W SV GAA SV% SHO
3C, 3RW, 3LW,2F,6D,1Util,2G,5BN,5IR
25 Player Farm

Penguins
C- Malkin, Crosby,J Thornton, Turris, Johansen, Cullen
LW- Hall, Nash, D Brown, Cooke,
RW- Gaborik, Wheeler, Clutterback, Tarasenko, Dorsett
D-Letang, Goligoski, Salo, Girardi, Faulk, Zanon
G- MAF, Rinne, Gustavsson

Farm - Grimaldi, Faska, JT Brown, Clifford, Rinaldo, Morin, Beach, Tangradi, Pulkinnen, Spooner, Miele, C Conacher, Welsh, Komorov, Rattie, Orlov, Dehann, Klefbom, Clendening, Thrower, Irving, Kuemper, Rynnas, Hovinen

Last edited by NikW71; 02-20-2013 at 05:12 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #79  
Old 02-21-2013, 03:46 AM
austeane's Avatar
austeane austeane is online now
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 562
 
Rep Power: 4
austeane will become famous soon enoughausteane will become famous soon enoughausteane will become famous soon enough
Dobber Sports Ace
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dean Youngblood View Post
I am not as tied into the college ranks but I have heard names like: Dan Dekeyser (D - DET invite), Kenny Morrison (D), Chris Casto (D- def. D), Andrej Sustr (D - 6'8"), Nate Schmidt (D), Eriah Hayes (F - Hawks invite), Ryan Walters (F), Austin Czarnik (F), Drew LeBlanc (F), Rylan Schwartz (F), Mike Boivin (D)


see bolded above for your second answer
Thanks! I appreciate it!
If anyone has any input on where those guys's potentials are and how many of the guys I have listed are worth dropping for these names, I would appreciate it!
Is Dekeyser worth picking up over say, Spencer Abbott or Nicolas Deslauriers (my prospect is the King's Dman not the goalie)?
__________________

HUFA League:
Rules: http://goo.gl/gf0ix
Roster: http://goo.gl/Enq5m
2010-11 Season: Last
2011-12 Season (I took over in August): Last
2012-13 Season: 10th out of 14, rebuild almost complete
(Updated April, 2013)

Ask a former Canucks blogger and Dobberhockey article writer about Canucks/Fantasy Hockey: http://ask.fm/austeane
Reply With Quote
  #80  
Old 02-21-2013, 02:08 PM
Dean Youngblood's Avatar
Dean Youngblood Dean Youngblood is online now
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 11,132
 
Location: Sarnia
Rep Power: 25
Dean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond reputeDean Youngblood has a reputation beyond repute
Dobber Sports Grand Master
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
Hey Dean,

Could you tell me your opinion on Nathan Beaulieu and Slater Koekkoek? Where do you see their upsides, got any player comparisons for them (playing style and/or future multi-cat production) and what do you see their ETA's?

Thanks.
I don't like doing player comparisons as it's just too difficult to match players.

Beaulieu has good upside (45-50P) and will probably start to see spot duty as early as next season (2013-14) but won't be full time until the following year at the earliest. Very good puck moving defenseman that could develop into a Matt Carle type of D.

Koekkoek is a player all about "potential" and unfortunately he hasn't been able to stay healthy long enough to show it. Next year will be an important year for Koekkoek as he will get a fresh start on a young talented Spitfires team with increased responsibility. I liken Koekkoek's potential to someone like Alexander Edler's if he can put it all together ...but with more of an edge.
__________________
"If you lose the last game of the season, no one gives a shit"




Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.