I thought I made it clear that I was not comparing Schultz to Orr just saying that not since Orr has a rookie defenseman had such an intial impact.

Just wanted to give the forum experts someone to jump on. I am just saying that no rookie d has hit the scene with such early impact. I understand it will take most hockey followers to appreciate just how good this kid is. Most have not yet even had a chance to watch Schultz play. Trust me when you see this guy play you will appreciate what I am saying this kid is clearly a cut above the norm and then some.

he is a stud and will put up ppg stats this year and him and karlsson will be the 2 leaders in points for dman for years.. calder talk for sure, norris talk def not this year

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Is he for real? Yes. He's going to rack up pts on that PP in his sleep.

Just by putting Orr in the same sentence as Schultz you are comparing them. If you aren't why even mention Orr?

Get some perspective mate. He's played 5 games. Dont give him the Calder and Norris trophy and call him supreme master of all the universe just yet.

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Karlsson's the epitome of a spe******t type player, especially last season. He had more offensive zone starts than just about any other defenceman and rarely played a shift against the opposition's top players. He played sheltered minutes and racked up big numbers, but was hardly an all around defender worthy of the Norris.

If Karlsson could win it last year, Schultz could win it this year. It's more likely that Schultz wins the Norris than it is that Ev stops being the biggest homer on the forum.

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That is a comparison.

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Start: 2C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G

saying Schultz may get a Norris?

Literally all the Norris winners last 27 years were hall of fame / all time top dmen.

Coffey 3
Bourque 5
Chelios 3
Leetch 2
Macinnis 1
Blake 1
Pronger 1
Lidstrom 7
Niedermayer 1
Chara 7
Keith 1
Karlsson 1

So unless you are two of the following: Swedish, 6'4+, shutdown dmen, or put up 20 goals or 60 pts its hard to win.

Heck, Mike Green had two 70 pt seasons and didn't win.

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Yes, Schultz is for real.

Yes, Schultz could win the Calder.

No, Schultz will not score 78 points in 81GP (could hit 68 though).

No, Schultz will not win a Norris (at least not for a while).

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D: Karlsson, PK Subban, Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Doughty, Yandle, Chara, Kronwall, J.Johnson, T.Myers, J.Faulk, E.Johnson, A.Larsson, J.Morrow, S.Elliott, M.Rielly, C.Ceci
G: Price, Rask, M.Smith, Hiller

Not really. That's more of a statement on how long its been since the last time there has been a rookie defenseman that has looked like an offensive juggernaut right out of the gate.


Besides Shultz is gonna make Orr look like Hal Gill.

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You literally have no clue what you're talking about. Most even strength points of any d-man. Now the guy is killing penalties this year.

Be informed before you post nonsense.

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