Agreed about the added responsibility. Both players have proven themselves as a result.

But comparing Green to Markov? Green put elite numbers up that haven't been seen in a long time. Green is much younger, and should be around for 5-8 more years at least.

Markov missed a ton of time, is much older, and has been unreliable due to injury. Two years from now, Markov won't be a factor, Green could be and should be a factor if he lives up to the contract he just got from the Caps.

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Greatest Five to Ever Play:

1)Gretzky
2)Lemieux
3)Orr
4)Howe
5)Messier

i was pretty sure it was the other way around. but i'll take your guys' word for it.

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2nd Year 12 Team Dynasty H2H, Daily Starts
G, A, +/-, PIM, SOG, Hits, PPP, SHP
W, GAA, Sv%, Svs, SO

C: B.Richards, J.Pavelski, D.Roy, A.Killorn
LW: I.Kovalchuk, D.Heatley, R.Clowe, B.Dubinsky
RW: C.Perry, M.Gaborik, B.Wheeler, B.Boyes
D: A.Pietrangelo, P.K Subban, N.Kronwall, C.Franson
G: R.Miller, S.Varlamov, A.Khudobin, B.Elliott
IR: J.Spezza, E.Karlsson

Prospects: Galchenyuk, Johansen, Kuznetsov, Teravainen, Dumba, M.Foligno, Orlov, Pickard, Ramo

No, you shouldn't. Just checked it, and you were right...

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14 teams keeper league (rebuilding)
4LW,4C,4RW,6D,2G
G=1 A=1 W=2 SO=3

LW: Wheeler, Laich, Hudler, Backlund, Regin
C: Umberger, Eakin, Brassard, Park
RW: Butler, K. Palmieri, Skille, T. Ruutu, Moss
D: Giordano, Bogosian, Coburn, Niskanen, Kubina, Wilson
G: Khudobin, Nabokov

And in two years, Subban will be able to sign for Markov's money and more... the cap will be higher, and Markov will be off the books. Just take the two-year bridge contract P.K.!!

The guys in the room all did that, and even if they will not say it in the medias, they will be pissed at P.K. if he continue to put himself ahead of the team.

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14 teams keeper league (rebuilding)
4LW,4C,4RW,6D,2G
G=1 A=1 W=2 SO=3

LW: Wheeler, Laich, Hudler, Backlund, Regin
C: Umberger, Eakin, Brassard, Park
RW: Butler, K. Palmieri, Skille, T. Ruutu, Moss
D: Giordano, Bogosian, Coburn, Niskanen, Kubina, Wilson
G: Khudobin, Nabokov

No he wasn't. As I said Burke paid more than offer sheet would have cost:

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...uins-stalement

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UHL Pittsburgh Penguins

24 Team Fantrax Salary Cap H2H Dynasty League Daily
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, Blks, FOW
W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
27 Man Minor Team

C- Tavares, Stepan, Hodgson, Shaw, Bjugstad
LW- Ryan, Perron, Downie, Killorn, Paajarvi
RW- Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Frattin, Rinaldo
D- Schultz, JJ, Bogosian, EJ, Josi, Cowen, Muzzin
G- Lehtonen

F: Granlund, Silfverberg, Jensen, Dalpe, Bowman, Knight, Fasth, JAM, O'Dell
D: Beaulieu, Koekkoek, Gelinas, Pysyk, McCabe, Irwin, Gryba
G: Nilsson, Poulin, Nilstorp, Ramo, Berra, Brossoit, C.Gibson

This is from the former CBA available here : http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26366

10.4 Draft Choice Compensation for Restricted Free Agents

Any Club that is entitled to but does not exercise its Right of First Refusal
pursuant to Section 10.3 shall be entitled to obtain Draft Choice Compensation from the
New Club. The number and quality of draft choices due to the Prior Club shall be based
on the average annual value of the compensation contained in the Principal Terms (as
defined in Section 10.3(e) hereof) of the New Club's Offer Sheet (determined by dividing
such compensation by the lesser of the number of years of the Offer Sheet or five), based
on the following scale:

GROUP 2 COMPENSATION CHART
OFFER SHEET COMPENSATION
$660,000 or below None
Over $660,000 to $1 million Third Round
Over $1 million to $2.0 million Second Round
Over $2.0 million to $3.0 million First Round and Third Round
Over $3.0 million to $4.0 million First Round, Second Round, and Third Round
Over $4.0 million to $5.0 million Two First Rounds, Second Round, and Third Round
Over $5 million Four First Rounds

kessel signed for a cap hit of 5.4M$

But it's weird... I remember saying to myself that it was strange that Burke offered more than the offer sheet.

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14 teams keeper league (rebuilding)
4LW,4C,4RW,6D,2G
G=1 A=1 W=2 SO=3

LW: Wheeler, Laich, Hudler, Backlund, Regin
C: Umberger, Eakin, Brassard, Park
RW: Butler, K. Palmieri, Skille, T. Ruutu, Moss
D: Giordano, Bogosian, Coburn, Niskanen, Kubina, Wilson
G: Khudobin, Nabokov

The offer sheet compensation range changes each year based on the cap. Those compensations you listed were from the start of that CBA so for season 2005-06. The money required for the higher compensation raised each year since and at the time of Kessel signing a $6 million contract would only have brought back a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd in compensation.

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UHL Pittsburgh Penguins

24 Team Fantrax Salary Cap H2H Dynasty League Daily
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, Blks, FOW
W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
27 Man Minor Team

C- Tavares, Stepan, Hodgson, Shaw, Bjugstad
LW- Ryan, Perron, Downie, Killorn, Paajarvi
RW- Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Frattin, Rinaldo
D- Schultz, JJ, Bogosian, EJ, Josi, Cowen, Muzzin
G- Lehtonen

F: Granlund, Silfverberg, Jensen, Dalpe, Bowman, Knight, Fasth, JAM, O'Dell
D: Beaulieu, Koekkoek, Gelinas, Pysyk, McCabe, Irwin, Gryba
G: Nilsson, Poulin, Nilstorp, Ramo, Berra, Brossoit, C.Gibson

That makes perfect sense, thanks!

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14 teams keeper league (rebuilding)
4LW,4C,4RW,6D,2G
G=1 A=1 W=2 SO=3

LW: Wheeler, Laich, Hudler, Backlund, Regin
C: Umberger, Eakin, Brassard, Park
RW: Butler, K. Palmieri, Skille, T. Ruutu, Moss
D: Giordano, Bogosian, Coburn, Niskanen, Kubina, Wilson
G: Khudobin, Nabokov

I get what you're saying, but Subban doesn't care, and sees himself as more valuable than those guys were when they signed their 'bridge' contracts.

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Greatest Five to Ever Play:

1)Gretzky
2)Lemieux
3)Orr
4)Howe
5)Messier

Did you guys ever get the sense that the Kings locker room was bitter towards Doughty after he held out?

Both guys are pretty integral to their teams' success and their sitting out hurts the team as games are getting burnt.

Doughty didn't get passed the cup for quite awhile.

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10 Team Limited Keeper (Keep 7) Points Only
SALARY CAP (Player Salaries) League
12 F 6 D 2 G

F: Giroux, Tavares, Seguin, Ryan, Pacioretty , Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Pavelski, Ribeiro, JVR, Roy, S Kostitsyn
D: OEL, A Larsson, Yandle, Josi, Hedman, Faulk
G: Quick, Price