If Markov goes down it changes everything. Big time.

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2nd Year 12 Team Dynasty H2H, Daily Starts
G, A, +/-, PIM, SOG, Hits, PPP, SHP
W, GAA, Sv%, Svs, SO

C: B.Richards, J.Pavelski, D.Roy, A.Killorn
LW: I.Kovalchuk, D.Heatley, R.Clowe, B.Dubinsky
RW: C.Perry, M.Gaborik, B.Wheeler, B.Boyes
D: A.Pietrangelo, P.K Subban, N.Kronwall, C.Franson
G: R.Miller, S.Varlamov, A.Khudobin, B.Elliott
IR: J.Spezza, E.Karlsson

Prospects: Galchenyuk, Johansen, Kuznetsov, Teravainen, Dumba, M.Foligno, Orlov, Pickard, Ramo

why wouldnt a team like detroit just offer sheet his ass? 5 year 6M. i'm tired of this, stop trying to underpay the kid, you have to overpay a bit to keep a player in montreal plain and simple. habs should easily be offering a 5 year 5M deal as a minimum.

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XBOX 360 Gamertag: praba911

What... I never compared Subban to those guys...

But to me, the best comparable is John Carlson. Similar offensive production, both were given tough defensive assignments. Subban is more physical, and there is something more about his game.

Carlson agreed to 23M$/6 years, so roughly 4M$ per.

Subbanwill ultimately make more money than that, but 4M$ is the max he should get on his next contract.

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14 teams keeper league (rebuilding)
4LW,4C,4RW,6D,2G
G=1 A=1 W=2 SO=3

LW: Wheeler, Laich, Hudler, Backlund, Regin
C: Umberger, Eakin, Brassard, Park
RW: Butler, K. Palmieri, Skille, T. Ruutu, Moss
D: Giordano, Bogosian, Coburn, Niskanen, Kubina, Wilson
G: Khudobin, Nabokov

Nobody uses the offersheet. It's almost always matched and only leads to every other GM in the league looking to do the same thing right back to the offender.

Pretty much the only way to get an RFA is through trade.

Interesting note, the Kessel trade actually netted Boston less than an offer sheet for the contract Kessel signed would have. (two 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd vs the two 1st and the 2nd they got. but i doubt they're dissapointed by that in the slightest :P)

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2nd Year 12 Team Dynasty H2H, Daily Starts
G, A, +/-, PIM, SOG, Hits, PPP, SHP
W, GAA, Sv%, Svs, SO

C: B.Richards, J.Pavelski, D.Roy, A.Killorn
LW: I.Kovalchuk, D.Heatley, R.Clowe, B.Dubinsky
RW: C.Perry, M.Gaborik, B.Wheeler, B.Boyes
D: A.Pietrangelo, P.K Subban, N.Kronwall, C.Franson
G: R.Miller, S.Varlamov, A.Khudobin, B.Elliott
IR: J.Spezza, E.Karlsson

Prospects: Galchenyuk, Johansen, Kuznetsov, Teravainen, Dumba, M.Foligno, Orlov, Pickard, Ramo

Exactly, and in the final 2-3 years of a five year contract at 5m per, the team will win this deal, guaranteed.

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Greatest Five to Ever Play:

1)Gretzky
2)Lemieux
3)Orr
4)Howe
5)Messier

You're right, it was bnhershey that brought these players into the discussion.

Carlson is a decent comparable, but with Green in the picture and making more, the Caps had a good argument to pay him that amount. Subban doesn't have anyone ahead of him (like Green on the Caps), and can demand more.

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Greatest Five to Ever Play:

1)Gretzky
2)Lemieux
3)Orr
4)Howe
5)Messier

Isn't it the other way round? Burke payed more than offer sheeting Kessel would have cost? Can't remember the actual offer sheet compensations from that year but wouldn't offer sheet have cost only one 1st round pick, 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick?

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UHL Pittsburgh Penguins

24 Team Fantrax Salary Cap H2H Dynasty League Daily
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, Blks, FOW
W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
27 Man Minor Team

C- Tavares, Stepan, Hodgson, Shaw, Bjugstad
LW- Ryan, Perron, Downie, Killorn, Rinaldo
RW- Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Frattin, Boyes
D- Pietrangelo, JJ, Bogosian, EJ, Josi, Cowen, Muzzin
G- Lehtonen

F: Granlund, Silfverberg, Jensen, Dalpe, Bowman, Knight, Fasth, JAM
D: Beaulieu, Koekkoek, Gelinas, Pysyk, McCabe, Irwin
G: Nilsson, Nilstorp, Ramo, Berra, Brossoit, Gibson

I don't think that we will see an offer sheet soon...this season at least.

The owners just locked the league out and cried that too much money was offered to the players. One of their complains was that the second contracts were getting out of hands. What the offer sheet does is exactly what the owners and GMs were complaining about.

There will be offer sheet offers in the future, but I doubt it will be this year.

But if I'm wrong, the Habs will match any offer, unless it is something ridiculous like Drew Doughty numbers.

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14 teams keeper league (rebuilding)
4LW,4C,4RW,6D,2G
G=1 A=1 W=2 SO=3

LW: Wheeler, Laich, Hudler, Backlund, Regin
C: Umberger, Eakin, Brassard, Park
RW: Butler, K. Palmieri, Skille, T. Ruutu, Moss
D: Giordano, Bogosian, Coburn, Niskanen, Kubina, Wilson
G: Khudobin, Nabokov

I think that Green and Markov are pretty good comparaisons in both cases. Both, if healthy, are #1 on their teams, but both weren't healthy at all in the last two seasons.

That is why both young Dmen were given added responsibilities faster than their respective teams would have like. But both of them were up to the task.

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14 teams keeper league (rebuilding)
4LW,4C,4RW,6D,2G
G=1 A=1 W=2 SO=3

LW: Wheeler, Laich, Hudler, Backlund, Regin
C: Umberger, Eakin, Brassard, Park
RW: Butler, K. Palmieri, Skille, T. Ruutu, Moss
D: Giordano, Bogosian, Coburn, Niskanen, Kubina, Wilson
G: Khudobin, Nabokov

You are right... I don't have the exact offer either, but I remember that Burke gave more to the Bruins than what the offer sheet compensation was.

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14 teams keeper league (rebuilding)
4LW,4C,4RW,6D,2G
G=1 A=1 W=2 SO=3

LW: Wheeler, Laich, Hudler, Backlund, Regin
C: Umberger, Eakin, Brassard, Park
RW: Butler, K. Palmieri, Skille, T. Ruutu, Moss
D: Giordano, Bogosian, Coburn, Niskanen, Kubina, Wilson
G: Khudobin, Nabokov