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subban for yakupov would be sweet to watch on both sides...subban on the oilers with schultz on the ppl...yakupov and galchenyuk the best two forwards in their draft...damn!
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I said it from day one that Marc Bergevin needs to do one thing above all else and that is to stop taking other teams' garbage. So if Subban does have to be traded it better be for quality.
No way he's traded for garbage, not by Bergevin, and even if he has a bout of insanity the guys surrounding him now are all excellent judges of talent, they all know what they'd be giving up in Subban.

I would only see this happen if an elite winger comes back, like a Corey Perry (trade and sign). The Oilers could be be a good fit too with their glut of wingers.

But my feeling is he won't be traded, cooler heads will prevail, especially on Subban's side, he'll get tired of not playing and will be a little more careful and listen to his agent, and they'll sign him to a 2 year deal at $4m per.

That said, as I posted last year, I would offer him long term at $5M+ per year, but based on all that's happened since, I get the distinct impression that Habs management is very concerned about his impact in the locker room - I have heard from people close to current NHL players that he is not at all liked in the room, apart from his buddy Price.
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Montreal is in need of help on the wings and there is a need for d-men on the Island. How bout a trade based on Subban+ for Niederreiter+? I believe that Montreal needs Subban more than they need El Niño, but if it gets to a point where re-signing him isn't an option, I don't think there's many other teams that could package something Montreal needs like this. Nino's young, got size, has the draft pedigree that wouldn't leave the Montreal fan-base mad. Snow would probably have to add a d-man in return, maybe a Donovan, Ness or maybe even de Haan. Just spit-balling here in lieu of word that Nino wants out...
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How bout a trade based on Subban+ for Niederreiter+?
I highly doubt that happens.
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Montreal is in need of help on the wings and there is a need for d-men on the Island. How bout a trade based on Subban+ for Niederreiter+? I believe that Montreal needs Subban more than they need El Niño, but if it gets to a point where re-signing him isn't an option, I don't think there's many other teams that could package something Montreal needs like this. Nino's young, got size, has the draft pedigree that wouldn't leave the Montreal fan-base mad. Snow would probably have to add a d-man in return, maybe a Donovan, Ness or maybe even de Haan. Just spit-balling here in lieu of word that Nino wants out...
garth snow is not be capable of making a good deal for his team. cross this one out.
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garth snow is not be capable of making a good deal for his team. cross this one out.
But he's great in contract negotiations. Maybe Montreal should hire him to make a deal with Subban.
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Hahaha ya maybe I was giving him too much credit
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That said, as I posted last year, I would offer him long term at $5M+ per year, but based on all that's happened since, I get the distinct impression that Habs management is very concerned about his impact in the locker room - I have heard from people close to current NHL players that he is not at all liked in the room, apart from his buddy Price.
We discussed this briefly in the Habs post.

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I am not disputing the fact that P.K. is an important part of the team going forward, but Bergevin can't to this for two main reasons:

1) No one is bigger than the team, and every other star on the team (Price, Pacioretty and, to a lesser extent, Gorges) followed the same path, which is to sign the bridge contract before cashing in.

2) Pure cap maths. For this one, I will refer you to the above post. But to sum it up, the Habs don't have 5M$ under the cap next season, even if Kaberle is bought out, so if Subban is signed for 5M+, Bergevin will be forced into a trade to shed salary.
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Agreed... If, and that's a big IF, the Habs trade Subban, a young stud defenseman better come the other way. I keep reading that the Habs should target a big winger, but the future core of this team is Price-Subban-Galchenyuk-Pacioretty. Trading Subban creates a hole on the defense going forward. Beaulieu is not ready, and probably won't be as good as Subban, and there is no one else that can do what Subban does on the ice.

Unless a guy like Ekman-Larsson, Hamilton, Dumba, Murray, etc. is in play, keeping Subban is the way to go.
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