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View Poll Results: Which of these RD's gets the most points this season?
Doughty 15 32.61%
Weber 1 2.17%
Byfuglien 7 15.22%
Pietrangelo 23 50.00%
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Old 01-11-2013, 06:09 PM
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Doughty will have cup hangover.. Buffy has a spare tire wrapped around his body.. Weber doesn't have much help in Nashville.. Pietrangelo will win this one hands down, no doubt about it..
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In a close race, the votes would be fairly evenly distributed as I said. That's just basic statistics really - it's a pretty low probability that if everyone who was voting valued all 3 fairly evenly that one would far exceed the rest in votes. But the results thus far don't mirror a close race, they mirror a landslide.
nah man. the sample is too small. if i flipped a coin five times in a row and it landed heads every time you wouldn't think anything of it. if i flipped the coin a hundred or a thousand times and it was heads in each of them then we would have something to talk about. then we could say heads are overhyped and we should give tails a little more credit.
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nah man. the sample is too small. if i flipped a coin five times in a row and it landed heads every time you wouldn't think anything of it. if i flipped the coin a hundred or a thousand times and it was heads in each of them then we would have something to talk about. then we could say heads are overhyped and we should give tails a little more credit.
You are just plain wrong.

There's a big diff between a sample size of 5 and 30+. Dyz is correct that if this poll were as close as you seem to believe, then the results would be much more dispersed. As it stands, AP is running away with it.

You don't even need to look at it from a statistical point of view, just read the responses in the thread... and it is clear as black and white that this poll isn't close and the majority here heavily favour AP.

I think AP is a fantastic talent, but one year isn't enough for me... I need to see more.
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AP has the hype, he's the Doughty of the 09-10 season. People tend to gravitate to the sexy, next-best-thing pick all the time in an attempt to be ahead of the pack. Plus, a lot of us irrationally believed after his 59pt season, Doughty would "obviously" get 60-70 in subsequent years. When he did not, people feel let down, and look elsewhere. Which is a mistake.

AP's got talent no doubt, but I'm w/blayze in that I need more than a year to move him into 'exalted' status.
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You are just plain wrong.

There's a big diff between a sample size of 5 and 30+. Dyz is correct that if this poll were as close as you seem to believe, then the results would be much more dispersed. As it stands, AP is running away with it.

You don't even need to look at it from a statistical point of view, just read the responses in the thread... and it is clear as black and white that this poll isn't close and the majority here heavily favour AP.

I think AP is a fantastic talent, but one year isn't enough for me... I need to see more.
and doughty has shown more than one year of greatness? come on. three years ago he was outstanding. two years ago he was consistently terrible and last year he ranged from terrible to great.

sure there is a difference between 5 and thirty, but neither one is enough to base any kind of absolute on. especially when we are talking about people's opinions of hockey players.

my main point isn't that the poll was close, just the players. and the poll does not say anything about how much better people think AP is than DD. All it says is that the majority of voters prefer him. Maybe they prefer him a lot, maybe a little.
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and doughty has shown more than one year of greatness? come on. three years ago he was outstanding. two years ago he was consistently terrible and last year he ranged from terrible to great.

sure there is a difference between 5 and thirty, but neither one is enough to base any kind of absolute on. especially when we are talking about people's opinions of hockey players.

my main point isn't that the poll was close, just the players. and the poll does not say anything about how much better people think AP is than DD. All it says is that the majority of voters prefer him. Maybe they prefer him a lot, maybe a little.
Frankly, we all tend to wallow in hindsight bias. It happened with DD after 09-10, and we're doing the same w/Pietrangelo now. Well, some of us....
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You don't even need to look at it from a statistical point of view, just read the responses in the thread... and it is clear as black and white that this poll isn't close and the majority here heavily favour AP.


Other than dyz and I, only four people even left comments about the poll. Here:

1. Doughty will have cup hangover.. Buffy has a spare tire wrapped around his body.. Weber doesn't have much help in Nashville.. Pietrangelo will win this one hands down, no doubt about it..

2. Pietrangelo for me.

3. Pietrangelo.

4. 1. Pietrangelo 2. Doughty 3. Byfuglien 4. Weber


Not sure where you came to your conclusion from. You must be using the same math as dyz. looks to me like one person out of the 18 people who voted for AP thought it wasn't close.

anyways, thats enough crazy math for me. i'm out...

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3 things I learnt today, thanks to this thread (well, re-learnt some of them):

1) Potential is valued over proven in most cases on these boards
2) AP hype train is huge on these boards
3) Apparently me and blayze are the only people who took statistics in university
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Other than dyz and I, only four people even left comments about the poll. Here:

1. Doughty will have cup hangover.. Buffy has a spare tire wrapped around his body.. Weber doesn't have much help in Nashville.. Pietrangelo will win this one hands down, no doubt about it..

2. Pietrangelo for me.

3. Pietrangelo.

4. 1. Pietrangelo 2. Doughty 3. Byfuglien 4. Weber


Not sure where you came to your conclusion from. You must be using the same math as dyz. looks to me like one person out of the 18 people who voted for AP thought it wasn't close.

anyways, thats enough crazy math for me. i'm out...
The sheer fact that only you and I acknowledged it was close out of all the people who did bother to comment shows at least as much as only one person saying it was a homerun for Pietrangelo.

Either way, the poll speaks for itself.
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all that i learned is that it is okay to hype doughty because of one great season three years ago, but you can't hype AP because he was great last season. one good season three years ago is obviously worth more than a good one last season. makes total sense. both these guys have one forty point season under their belt and they both have one fifity point season under their belt, they are both two of the premier talents at their positions currently inthe game.... but doughty is obviously so much more proven... probably learned this in a logic class at that same university you took statistics at, hey dyz...
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