Originally Posted by InnocentBystander

this seem misguided. sure doughty had 58 points, but he did it 3 years ago. his last 2 seasons have been very disappointing. pietrangelo has been on an upward trajectory during this same time frame and finshed the last 40 games of last season nearly on pace with the mighty karlsson and finished with 51 points. one guy's stats have been getting better while the other has been heading in the opposite direction. does logic really say that doughty is more likely than pietrangelo to have a better season next year. maybe i should draft phaneuf ahead of both of them - he had 60 points a few years back. so did gonchar - maybe he will be available still in the 4th round. this just seems like a funny place to pull the proven vs. potential card. i can see it in cases of highly touted rookies, but pietrangelo. come on. and for the record, i see these guys finishing within a couple points of each other moving forward. two of the best in the whole league.

Originally Posted by InnocentBystander

no question in my mind that doughty, buff and AP are all capable of putting up 58 point seasons. all three could hit that pace this season. my point was just that AP isn't at the bottom of my list just becasue he hasn't done it before. tyler seguin has never scored 75 points before, but he has shown us enough to make that a plausible feat one day. AP has shown us enough to think 58 points is within his potential despite him not hitting the mark to date.

Originally Posted by dyzfunctioned

I think you're missing my point here IB - I'm not questioning your vote. You're the biggest AP homer on the planet and even you acknowledge that it's a neck and neck race between the three.

Yet the average dobberite (judging by the voting) seems to think AP is a clear step ahead of the pack despite the fact he's the least proven of the bunch. This supports my theory that a) potential is often valued over proven around here, b) that the AP hype is a bit much.

If the votes were AP (10), Doughty (7), Buff (6), Weber (1), I wouldn't have even bothered posting. But considering AP still has 55% of the vote, it's safe to say that (at least at this point) the voting is pretty irrational given the options available.

Originally Posted by dyzfunctioned

I think you're missing my point here IB - I'm not questioning your vote. You're the biggest AP homer on the planet and even you acknowledge that it's a neck and neck race between the three.

Yet the average dobberite (judging by the voting) seems to think AP is a clear step ahead of the pack despite the fact he's the least proven of the bunch. This supports my theory that a) potential is often valued over proven around here, b) that the AP hype is a bit much.

If the votes were AP (10), Doughty (7), Buff (6), Weber (1), I wouldn't have even bothered posting. But considering AP still has 55% of the vote, it's safe to say that (at least at this point) the voting is pretty irrational given the options available.

Originally Posted by InnocentBystander

I don't see anything in the results of the poll that say how much people value AP over the rest of thegroup, just that he is the favourite. I am sure that if you asked the other voters that they, too, would tell you thast this is a close race. i think your over-hyping line of thinking is off base.

i am sure that the more people that vote on this, the closer the numbers between AP, DD and DB will be.

Originally Posted by blayze

I'm going with Double D here... he's my bet to lead dmen in points this season.