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Old 01-11-2013, 01:09 AM
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I ended up watching this movie twice, the second time because of work. Even though I enjoyed it the first time (didnteet expectations but still liked it) I thought it was much better the second time. Obviously my expectations were lower and I was able to just relax and take it all in. I am looking much more forward to the next one now - highly recommend giving it another go when it comes out on DVD
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Finally saw the movie - overall I thought it was mediocre.

It's moving along way too slowly and it's missing the epic battles that defined the first 3 LOTR movies. Way too much boring dialogue, not enough action. Doesn't hold a candle to its 3 predecessors.

Definitely should have been one movie.
That's definitely the downside to having the LOTR movies first - almost impossible to stay true to the story and have it as exciting as the trilogy. Simply put, the story was more of a long, drawn out adventure that set up the epic battles and finales of the trilogy. That's why I enjoyed more the second time. My expectations were lowered and I was able to sit back and appreciate it for what it was. At this point I actually quite enjoyed it.

It would have been fantastic had this story come out first, I one or two movies, and was followed by the trilogy. I think it would have received a much wawr reception had they done so.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:17 AM
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Just saw it last night, was pretty solid.

Pros:
-Great pacing, considering
-Nice balance of fun and action
-Great acting
-Great sound
-Nice work bringing material in from outside of the Hobbit, and weaving it into the film

Cons:
-Action scenes were rather poorly done for the most part(especially the one in the mountain with the goblins). Also the one where the brown wizard is supposed to be leading the goblins away, but is instead keeping them dangerously close to the group. Made for an anti-climactic, wtf is going on minute or two, and was just poor scene planning/writing.
-Too many useless "Look how awesome our CGI is" scenes, like the stone golem battle. Such a useless scene.
-The final bit with the pale orc and Thorin and whatnot could have been done so much better. Considering pretty much every battle that wasn't a flashback was boring and anticlimactic, they really needed a good one to prop the movie up on at the end, and that wasn't it. Thorin comes out with an oak branch for a shield and that sword...cool. Pale orc comes at him with a mace, on a warg, and beats the shit out of him instead of engaging in singles combat. I mean, sure, I don't doubt for a moment that the orc would do that, but through a film where there are so many coincidences and somewhat out of character moments, could they not have decided to pull the "orc wants to earn his pride back, and demolish Thorin's in part two of their battle", instead of annihilating all the tension that had built up around them throughout the film? They could still have Thorin bested, and Bilbo come in for the save like he did. Would have made for a more intriguing and satisfactory fight. Instead, it just made the film limp to a conclusion.

All in all, I'd give it a 7.5 out of 10. I figure, if you're going to turn The Hobbit into an actiony film, you'd best do the action right, which...it didn't. *shrug*

For the most part I liked the CGI and whatnot, but hated two things. The fully CGI necromancy and HATED the storm gods battle. That was just horrible and would have rather they just left it out.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:28 AM
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That's definitely the downside to having the LOTR movies first - almost impossible to stay true to the story and have it as exciting as the trilogy. Simply put, the story was more of a long, drawn out adventure that set up the epic battles and finales of the trilogy. That's why I enjoyed more the second time. My expectations were lowered and I was able to sit back and appreciate it for what it was. At this point I actually quite enjoyed it.

It would have been fantastic had this story come out first, I one or two movies, and was followed by the trilogy. I think it would have received a much wawr reception had they done so.
I think taken as a whole, the Hobbit can be just as good as each of the other LOTR movies in the trilogy. Yes it's more of a light-hearted story but at it's core, it's got the same ingredients to make an epic movie as the other 3 - an epic battle at the end of the story that is comparable to the epic battles in the other 3 movies, and no shortage of smaller battles and side stories to keep it interesting.

The problem is they are taking a book that should have been one movie, and they are simply stretching the shit out of it in a pathetic attempt at a cash grab.

As I've iterated earlier in this post, on it's own, the entire Hobbit book is actually SHORTER than EACH of the other 3 LOTR books. Now imagine the original trilogy split into 9 movies... it would be boring as ****. That's essentially what they've done with the Hobbit.
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I think taken as a whole, the Hobbit can be just as good as each of the other LOTR movies in the trilogy. Yes it's more of a light-hearted story but at it's core, it's got the same ingredients to make an epic movie as the other 3 - an epic battle at the end of the story that is comparable to the epic battles in the other 3 movies, and no shortage of smaller battles and side stories to keep it interesting.

The problem is they are taking a book that should have been one movie, and they are simply stretching the shit out of it in a pathetic attempt at a cash grab.

As I've iterated earlier in this post, on it's own, the entire Hobbit book is actually SHORTER than EACH of the other 3 LOTR books. Now imagine the original trilogy split into 9 movies... it would be boring as ****. That's essentially what they've done with the Hobbit.

I can't disagree with any of this. I gotta admit, though, there's a big part of me thy never wants this whole "event" to end!
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Saw this opening night...

Thought the storyline was done fairly well (although no need to draw it out over 3 movies...) but my god - the camera drove me batshit absolutely f*cking nuts.

Constant pans from close up to close up rather than just having a still camera zoomed out where you could just see the whole scene unfold. Completely distracting and annoying as hell, served no purpose other than to show off the fancy FPS.

The CGI was brutal IMO. So much of it and it looked so blatantly fake. Oh, and a HUGE step back from the LOTR movies where they put so much focus on detail, used real actors for almost everything, etc.

The battles scenes... one of the amazing things about the LOTR movies were the epic large scale battle scenes. In The Hobbit it just constantly zooms into a one-on-one battle, shows someone getting killed, then pans across the whole battle to show another one-on-one while never really showing a zoomed out angle that displays the mayhem of the battle.

I didn't hate it. But I found the camera work annoying beyond description and compared to the LOTR series it was pretty brutal. As a stand alone film it was decent were it not for the style of filming.
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Agree with those saying it should have just been 1 movie. The beginning dragged on forever; the whole scene in the goblin's mountain was pointless except for Bilbo meeting Gollum. The stone giants...what a waste of CGI. Didn't those Giants only appear in 1 chapter in all the Tolkien works combined? And even then it wasn't clear whether they were literally stone giants, or just a metaphor for a storm?
Maybe i'm remembering wrong.

I still enjoyed the movie, I mean, it's Peter Jackson doing The Hobbit, and it had a great cast...of course it's gonna be good. But if it was a single 3 hour epic, it had the potential to be as good as the LOTR films. Tho I expect the 2nd half of the story to really deliver.

I like that Peter Jackson and HBO will be in a little mini-race here to see who can make the best CGI dragons. Hopefully HBO takes notes for future seasons of Game of Thrones.
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