Kovalchuk staying in KHL... - Page 5 - Fantasy Sports Forums

Carcillo · #41 01-10-2013, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by loco man

Is there ANY chance that this is a secret plan to get out from under Kovy's contract, and Kovy is happy to oblige? Hear me out..

Going back to the ridiculous 100 M signing, it was painfully obvious that Lou hated this deal and that his hand was forced in making it.

Flash forward to today and the new reality of a 64 M cap. Kovy's great, but given the choice of having Kovy at 9 M for 14 more years or getting out from his contract, I'd think they want option B.

From Kovy's end, the KHL would pay him the exact contract and he gets to play at home.

Everybody wins.

I can't see it, but I am not so sure the Devils brass are too panicked that Kovy may void his deal. They are probably pulling for it.

The chances of Devils wanting to get rid of their best player on a cap friendly deal are 0%.

The reality of a 64M cap means absolutely nothing. The cap was lower when they signed Kovy to that deal and the cap hit is very cap friendly.

loco man · #42 01-10-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Carcillo

The chances of Devils wanting to get rid of their best player on a cap friendly deal are 0%.

The reality of a 64M cap means absolutely nothing. The cap was lower when they signed Kovy to that deal and the cap hit is very cap friendly.

I don't know man. Things changed pretty dramatically when Kovy just announced that his preference is to stay in the KHL. Regardless of what happens now, he has tipped his hat and offered a big "F.U!" to his team mates, the NJ fans, the owner who ponied up 100 million to sign him.

What a slap in the face. Not sure how they even WANT him back after letting it be known than he would have absolutely NO PROBLEM abandoning his teammates (knowing full well without him they are jiggered), his owner and the fans. If only he didn't have that pesky contract. Oh and its just for one season to collect the 30 Million offered by Putin, but then I'll be back. Sorry, fellas. Good luck!

Brutal brutal brutal. You are telling me that the Devils brass are not thinking "F him. Let him void his deal and let's retool, boys. Lots we can do with that 89 mill"

They gotta be!

BTW, not that I can begrudge him - there is an argument that all bets were off when the NHL locked out the players and it would be hard to turn down 30 Million to play at home, not to mention the intense pressure he must be under from the motherland. My point is just that his relationship with NJ can only be really damaged by these comments, and I can see all members of Devils management wondering why the hell they signed this jackass

Carcillo · #43 01-10-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by loco man

Brutal brutal brutal. You are telling me that the Devils brass are not thinking "F him. Let him void his deal and let's retool, boys."

They gotta be

That's exactly what I'm saying. They're going to be happy to get Kovy back in New Jersey - whenever it happens.

metaldude26 · #44 01-10-2013, 03:51 PM

Kovalchuk's cap hit is actually very reasonable but for a small market team like New Jersey with possible ownership issues voiding that deal would be huge. You are talking about not having to pay over $10 million every year for the next five years plus another $11 million this year (although with the lockout killing half the season half the contract is already killed.) That's tangible.

And I realize that the New Jersey ownership situation has technically been settled but with these guys it never seems to really be settled.

I don't think there's a chance in hell the Devils would consider using one of the amnesty buyouts on Kovalchuk but I do think they'd give serious consideration to letting him walk if it voided their salary commitment. I mean, the Devils already got what they wanted out of Kovalchuk, they got to be a contender for a year and went all the way to the Final. I think it makes sense to let him go if possible.

loco man · #45 01-10-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Carcillo

That's exactly what I'm saying. They're going to be happy to get Kovy back in New Jersey - whenever it happens.

If he voids the deal he aint comin back

Carcillo · #46 01-10-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by loco man

If he voids the deal he aint comin back

He can't unilaterally void his deal. Not sure the Devils can do it either even if Kovy is in breach of his contract. If Kovy stays in Russia then Devils will suspend him and if he returns to NA that contract is still valid. Would be a messy situation with it being a long-term deal (vs. Radulov situation) but still the Devils would certainly love to have a world class player on their team if he wants to return.

But the point is moot. Kovy will be back in New Jersey next week and all of this will be forgotten and Kovy and Devils are one happy family again.

ericdaoust · #47 01-10-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by metaldude26

Kovalchuk's cap hit is actually very reasonable but for a small market team like New Jersey with possible ownership issues voiding that deal would be huge. You are talking about not having to pay over $10 million every year for the next five years plus another $11 million this year (although with the lockout killing half the season half the contract is already killed.) That's tangible.

And I realize that the New Jersey ownership situation has technically been settled but with these guys it never seems to really be settled.

I don't think there's a chance in hell the Devils would consider using one of the amnesty buyouts on Kovalchuk but I do think they'd give serious consideration to letting him walk if it voided their salary commitment. I mean, the Devils already got what they wanted out of Kovalchuk, they got to be a contender for a year and went all the way to the Final. I think it makes sense to let him go if possible.

If they buy him out they still have to pay him. So 2/3 of that huge chunk of dough is tangible as well. I think I'd rather own him and get some money back from what he brings to the table.

loco man · #48 01-10-2013, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Carcillo

He can't unilaterally void his deal. Not sure the Devils can do it either even if Kovy is in breach of his contract. If Kovy stays in Russia then Devils will suspend him and if he returns to NA that contract is still valid. Would be a messy situation with it being a long-term deal (vs. Radulov situation) but still the Devils would certainly love to have a world class player on their team if he wants to return.

But the point is moot. Kovy will be back in New Jersey next week and all of this will be forgotten and Kovy and Devils are one happy family again.

I'm searching for it, but I thought Bill Daly said that his contract would be voided if he did not show up for camp. I know I saw it somewhere.

Either way, the fact that he SAID he would rather play in Russia than pull on a Devils jersey speaks volumes. Ya, he may be forced back, but how the hell does he look at his mates in the eye. If there is a way out of this mess for the Devils, I say they jump at it.

I could see his agent arranging a mutual walk away agreement and we call it no harm no foul.

Carcillo · #49 01-10-2013, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by loco man

Either way, the fact that he SAID he would rather play in Russia than pull on a Devils jersey speaks volumes.

I'd love to see that exact quote.

I know he's said about it being possible that he stays in Russia but to expressly say "I'd rather play for SKA than for the Devils"? Not buying it unless I see it myself.

ericdaoust · #50 01-10-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by loco man

Either way, the fact that he SAID he would rather play in Russia than pull on a Devils jersey speaks volumes. Ya, he may be forced back, but how the hell does he look at his mates in the eye. If there is a way out of this mess for the Devils, I say they jump at it.

Why would he have to look at his mates in the eye anyway? Who cares if he said (and this is debatable) that he would rather play somewhere else? The NHL isn't a cult where you have to sell your soul to the owner. It's their job. All he has to do is go back to New Jersey and produce.

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