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Old 01-06-2013, 06:32 PM
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just want to know if you guys think this is an overpayment or not before i go with a counter offer.

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seguin + nash + letang

dont think its too bad of a proposition but i dont want to be blinded and sell all my depth of stars for just one big fish.
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Old 01-06-2013, 06:42 PM
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well Viz is apparently seriously considering signing in the KHL so depending on what side of this you are on it might be a good idea or not
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:00 PM
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sorry dude just saw your PM now and noticed you already created a thread.

Stamkos is my top rated player in a keeper, but having said that I think this would be a slight overpayment.
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:19 PM
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might be a bit of an overpayment but you almost always have to overpay for the big fish.
i like the deal for you though.
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:20 PM
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yeah i was leaning to making the deal and if it sets me back a year then so be it i would be stronger in the long run.. but that was with me envisioning visnovsky as a 35+ contributor for a couple seasons before he either A.) KHL bound or B.) retires. Now that this rumor is up about visnovsky departing as soon as this season its kind of just cole + stamkos for the trio.

@blayze all good man i figured screw it might as well make a thread and get as many opinions as i can if im moving so many pieces.
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Old 01-06-2013, 09:27 PM
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It's close. Can you receive a better D option than Visnovski?
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likely not, best i might be able to sub for is brodin or gormley, thrower

even then he seems to value his prospects quite highly.
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likely not, best i might be able to sub for is brodin or gormley, thrower

even then he seems to value his prospects quite highly.
I think Brodin would be a significant upgrade on Vis right now. If you can sub him in then get it done. Either way, this deal will serve you well in the long run, but getting a talented young D like Brodin would make it just a bit sweeter.
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I would grab Stamkos. He is the best fantasy option.

Viz should not be in the equation. Easy to replace him with a waiver wire option.
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If this is for your middle team, with the five keepers, I suppose I'd do it b/c Stamkos IS a better bet than Seguin. But only because it makes that keeper position stronger...because I can't help but think the other two spots, for you, become much worse...albeit only over the course of one season.

Stamkos is pretty durned good, but I think Seguin is going to be awfully sweet awfully soon.

Add in that you're giving up a potential high goal guy in Nash and a top offensive dman in Letang and it would be really tough to tell you to make the trade.... unless the move is to improve that one keeper spot.
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