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Old 12-29-2012, 03:17 PM
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In a roto league, you definitely need 2 good goalies. Schneider's risk is that he splits his starts with Luongo and Van keeps both all year. Kiprusoff is probably the safer pick for this year, but I'd roll the dice on Schneider myself. There will be other goalies available to augment your Fleury/Schneider tandem.

As much as I like Seguin, he doesn't contribute PIMs and Neal does. Even though Seguin was more valuable than Tavares last year in this format, mostly due to +/-, Tavares can not be dropped imo.

I would drop Seguin and then try to pick him up again with my 1st round pick. Depending where you pick, he just might slip under the radar for you.
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Thank you for the well thought out response.. it is a roto league...

Goaltending was not great for me last year - Had Ward to begin the season - which got be behind - Luongo being out for a lenght of time allwed Schneid's to get me some stats to pull me up a little. With that in mind I think keeping 2 goalies is a must (Fleury, Schneider)

My team was successful due to a balance of all the offensive players stats. PIM's helped (Backes, Neal, Chara, Simmonds) were owned and allowed me to get PIMs' without sacrificing +/- or Pts. With that in mind, Neal was huge... tough call to drop him in favour of Seguin despite his upside going forward.

I'm leaning keeping Neal over Seguin as Giroux and Tavares are musts as well as Schneider and Fleury. Still tough to decide.
What goalies would likely be available in the draft, based on other teams' likely keepers? In terms of name value and age, I would gather that Schneider holds more perceived value than Kiprusoff, given his potential and age. Also, it's likely that each team will keep at least one, and some two, goalies so they may not target them in the first round. Since you won last year, will you have the last pick in the first and first pick in the second? I'd consider picking Kiprusoff back up if he's available (and the best option) in case Schneider is still splitting time with Luongo. Do you have max games per position?

I can understand leaning towards Neal because of his strength in multiple categories. I'm always weary on using a category such as PIM to sway a decision as it more easily found in the draft elsewhere. However, if he can produce another solid campaign even with a bit of a regression (say 70-75), is that enough plus the PIM for you to choose him over a guy like Seguin, who may not give you as much PIM, but could outpoint Neal in the near future? Perhaps that perceived advantage won't be much and could be similar in the next couple of years? It is a tough one, but considering your keepers, you are already quite strong so it's not a decision that will necessarily hurt your team.

Another thing I touched on in my earlier post - even though it's a relatively shallow league (in terms of roster depth), in a keep 5, do you (and perhaps other managers) focus more on the year ahead more than the future? Given that there could be plenty of turnover due to the draft, trades and pickups, it seems to me that the focus should be more on now rather than later. In that case, I would consider keeping Neal because we know where he's at, what team he's on and what he can produce in the right circumstances. Seguin could break out but I believe (read it on here somewhere) that he still was a bit limited in his ice time which would limit his point potential. The Bruins may still remain a scoring-by-committee type team and he could be limited to the 70 point range next season. Which I would argue is the floor for Neal next season, unless he inexplicably struggles.

Note that all this is coming from someone who's not the best at projecting players going forward, rather focusing on what I feel are their strengths and how they can best fit into a team's strategy. It's very likely that whoever you drop will be picked up, so the main question is: who are you less likely to miss from your squad?
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Old 12-29-2012, 04:16 PM
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I would keep Giroux, Tavares, Seguin, Fleury and Schneider.

As much as I like Neal, Seguin will have RW eligibility and I think he's going to really break out this upcoming season.
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