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Old 12-13-2012, 07:45 PM
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To Dongjohnson - would you rather that she couldn't care less when and if you are home with her? Think about that for a while before you answer.

- if she is "depressed" ( by the quotation marks you are insinuating that you don't really believe her or look down on her for that ) then you have bigger problems. Be careful with that one. You don't want to have regrets.

As for a lot of the rest of you, you really under-estimate women. It's 2012 guys. No wonder you have problems with women with your condescending attitudes. Get out of the dark ages. Or maybe you are just hanging around with the wrong women.

Most women are intelligent, hard-working, loving, thoughtful, nurturing creatures. I'm sad that you are not hanging around these women.

I think respect is the key word. Try it. You might like it.
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My "relaxing time" comes at 10:00pm, when she goes to bed and I can watch violent films or play video games.
I supplement that with time on DobberHockey during the work day.
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Film = porn

Dobberhockey = porn
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Damn, another reason why the site will be blocked at most workplaces....
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LOL. Join the muddafuggin club.

I work a 40.00hr work week.

We have a 3-year old kid. I got in a big argument with my wife a few weeks ago because every night when I get home I "offer" to give her a break (never the other-way around).

My "relaxing time" comes at 10:00pm, when she goes to bed and I can watch violent films or play video games.
I supplement that with time on DobberHockey during the work day.

Let this 35-year old man, married 5+ years, shed some general advice on women I've learned over the years.

1. MOST IMPORTANT: Women are always (always!) looking forward to the next BIG thing. Unlike men, women can not live in happiness in the moment (they say they can, they can't). They are always looking to improve and to catch up with their more successful friends. If your wife is depressed, it is likely because she has nothing to look forward to. I don't know what that THING or EVENT is... but you have to figure it out. At our house, it is known that we have one major project per year. In 2007 we re-did our floors, in 2008 we re-did our countertops, in 2009 we had a baby & got a new car (for her), in 2010 we got some new appliances, in 2011 we built a front porch, in 2012 we re-did our front landscaping, for 2013 we are looking at new HVAC. We also had our daughter at home for the first few years and then sent her to pre-school this year. We talked about this when my daughter turned 1... so it was a whole year where my wife was looking forward to some time opening up (at the expense of our bank account). Summary: TABLE an idea, something she can look forward. Let her plan a vacation or something around the house. Depression comes from a consistent state of being unhappy in the present and seeing no END to it. Too much time to dwell on the fact that there is nothing positive to look forward too.

2. Flowers. Whenever my wife goes through something tough (we've had 5 miscarriages now - and a string of medical bills that are higher than 9/10 people), I bring home some flowers. I always say "Sorry you feel this way". Then we talk for a while and then I issue a few key words "So... what's your plan?". It's not just the look of the flowers, so much as a daily reminder... everytime she sees them she'll think "My husband was supportive, he listened, and now I have a plan".

3. Support Network. I have no idea what your support network is like... but that's key. As men, we can stand-alone and exist well. I have no family within 1000km of me (here in Atlanta, as a Canadian). My wife has her friend group from high school & college and her family. There's a lot of other people she can talk-to when she feels depressed (which has been OFTEN over the last 3 years... again, she's had 5 miscarriages... you want to see a woman go through depression, have her continue to lose potential babies while all of her friends are popping them out with ease and celebrating that joy daily on facebook... trust me man, I know what its like). Whenever she doesn't have support from her friends, she needs you. I know it sucks. But once you get married, you're not in Life1 anymore... you're in Life2. Life2 isn't about you, it's about somebody else. You have to be a stable ROCK. Listening to her depression stories is going to wear you the fugg down. Be the ROCK. You can do this. Besides... you married her! LOL. I say this to myself all the time "Shit, I picked her!".

In the end, I'm exhausted in life... but that's Life2. I love my wife (for as needy and depressed as she can be) and I love being a dad.

Summary:
1. Plan something for her/you to look forward to. This keeps her mind busy.
2. Bring home flowers. Talk. Finish with "What's your plan?"
3. Think about what you need to do to improve her support network. And remember, you are a ROCK. We men, buddy... we the strong ones, we don't shine any more, but you still hold up the house.
Don't forget that!
Really fantastic post. Thanks for that brother.
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Pengwin7 really laid it out well. Two basic human needs are goals and companionship. These first two get her mind and ambitions going and if there is a support network it can take some of the pressure off of you because her friends will be planning/doing things she can get involved with also. Feeling appreciated is those random gifts, not because you're in trouble or it's a special occasion but because you want too, it's a part of personal bonding.
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