Yep. I agree entirely!

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16 Team Dynasty League H2H: G, A, P, PPP, SHP, +/-, PIM, SOG, W, L, GAA, SvPct, SHO

C: Stamkos, Getzlaf, Carter
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Brown
RW: Iginla, Pavelski, Horton
D: Byfuglien, J.Johnson, Goligoski, Hedman, Hamonic
U: Mueller
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UHL Dynasty St. Louis Blues
...a bad team trying to rebuild...

Yep, that sums it up nicely for me too.

Just wait till the next CBA when they miss a season because owners don't want guaranteed contracts and that will be 'the hill they die on'.

Seroius question: Do you guys honestly think if Bettman (threatens) to cancel the season, the PA will agree to the leagues vital points in the new CBA?

I think any union (in any field) needs to be mandated to send their workers to go work at Tim Horton's for six months, with full Tim Horton's pay of course, before they can come back to the bargaining table.

Reality has a way of kicking the crap out of idealism.

I don't know that this will really change Weber's mind, what with that 8mil signing bonus.

It's like threatening me with sharks with laser beams if I pee in the pool. It is so phenomenally unlikely that I will end up in that situation as to have no meaning. I'll throw out a bet that the number of former NHLers working at Timmy's to pay bills is in the single digits.

As for 'will the players cave if Bettman threatens the season?' I'm gonna say i'd lean more towards 'no' at this point.

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Okay, so maybe nobody likes a cynic, but everybody f**king hates those perky optimists!

... and anyway, I make a damn good cynic.

A bit extreme wouldn't you say?

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Ultimate Dynasty League
16 Team Dynasty League H2H: G, A, P, PPP, SHP, +/-, PIM, SOG, W, L, GAA, SvPct, SHO

C: Stamkos, Getzlaf, Carter
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Brown
RW: Iginla, Pavelski, Horton
D: Byfuglien, J.Johnson, Goligoski, Hedman, Hamonic
U: Mueller
G: Schneider, Hiller,
B: E. Johnson, S.Kostitsyn, Neil, Biron, Giguere
IR:
Prospect: Nail Yakupov, Tangradi

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UHL Dynasty St. Louis Blues
...a bad team trying to rebuild...

Bingo.

Today I'm watching Campoli and how he talks about protecting the "middle class" by not agreeing to the 5 year contract term. This is basically the whole PA stance, in a nutshell. If we could read their minds, it would be "we want to ensure the middle class continues to get overpaid."

Meanwhile, people like me say "no, no, no - let's get Crosby his 12 mil per year (because he's worth every penny as that's who the fans go to see) and let the middle class fight for whatever they can get." Instead they are willing to kill the season to protect the plugs. The only people who give two craps about the player "middle class" is the players that make up that group. The fans don't care about them, nor do the owners, nor do the sponsors, maybe their wives care about them. Ok, so that's good.

Seriously folks. The superstars are underpaid, the plugs are overpaid, 2/3 of the league is unprofitable... the model needs to be fixed.

Was this on TV and is their a video of it somewhere? Would be interesting to hear his explanations of why it would do that.

Maybe somewhere on sportsnet

So much of this is wrong I don't know where to start...

1) the league is not made up of Crosbys and plugs
2) there is something like 700 nhlers, the 'Crosbys' of the league number what? 70? If that. (more like 20)
3) The plugs are 'over-payed' because the NHL GMs know that their star forwards will play 20 to 25 minutes a game at most and they then start trying to buy 'the next best' and this process trickles down until you get a 4th liner at 2mil/yr because he's a better 4th liner than anyone else
4) You know who else cares about the plugs? Their superstar team-mates. If it weren't for Anaheim's Pahlsson line then Scott Neidermeyer wouldn't have won a cup in Cali. That's a fact.
5) The SALARY CAP is why star players are 'underpaid'. It put the brakes on how much can be spent on one player because the rest of the roster needs to be filled with guys who can actually skate.
7) The CAP FLOOR is why 3rd and 4th liners seem over paid. Do you really think the Columbus roster (with, um, Nash) is worth only 16mil less than the Penguin's roster (with Malkin, Crosby and Letang), really? The league does.

So yeah, the effed up salary structure has nothing to do with the NHLPA 'protecting the middle class' and everything to do with the Salary Cap / Cap Floor system that the League set up during the last lock-out.

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Okay, so maybe nobody likes a cynic, but everybody f**king hates those perky optimists!

... and anyway, I make a damn good cynic.