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I would seem to think that Malkin plus Tavares/RNH is a little to rich for my blood when arguably Malkin is the better player and more durable (although that may be the kettle calling the other black). The only thing that I can see me gaining is FOW for certain and nothing more in another category that justifies sending another blue chip player along with the so called #2. I would definitely do Tavares and RNH plus however. Was just gauging what the value was and guess I'll wait for the other GM to get back to me and see if his demands are more reasonable. Thanks for the responses so far
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16 TM H2H DYNASTY G A +- PIM PPG PPA SHP FW SOG Hits Blks GS W SV GAA SV% SHO 3C, 3RW, 3LW,2F,6D,1Util,2G,5BN,5IR 25 Player Farm Penguins C- Malkin, Crosby,J Thornton, Turris, Johansen, Cullen LW- Hall, Nash, D Brown, Cooke, RW- Gaborik, Wheeler, Clutterback, Tarasenko, Dorsett D-Letang, Goligoski, Salo, Girardi, Faulk, Zanon G- MAF, Rinne, Gustavsson Farm - Grimaldi, Faska, JT Brown, Clifford, Rinaldo, Morin, Beach, Tangradi, Pulkinnen, Spooner, Miele, C Conacher, Welsh, Komorov, Rattie, Orlov, Dehann, Klefbom, Clendening, Thrower, Irving, Kuemper, Rynnas, Hovinen Last edited by NikW71; 12-01-2012 at 02:31 PM. |
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You want to be the person to table the FIRST offer. It sets the tone for the negotiation and more important it establishes an ANCHOR (meaning ultimately if there's a deal, it will fall closer to where the anchor was initially established). The first offer should be slightly lopsided but not to the point where it's insulting. If someone just simply asked me what it would take to land Player X, I would shoot for the moon because I would know they are desperate, meaning I establish the anchor. Secondly, it just shows a lack of effort and research when you just ask someone what it will take... YOU'RE the one who wants THEIR player... so YOU come up with a package that might attract their interest. I can't imagine ANY GM in the NHL calling up Yzerman and asking "hey buddy, what would it take to get Stamkos off you" lol |
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But I totally understand your point with setting the tone for the negotiation.
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I think it is near impossible to trade for Crosby.
The opposing owner would want too much (Tavares, Hall, plus prospects or a goalie) and risk is too high coming back. Don't destroy a very strong team for 87. |
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Malkin I lucked into. Nobody in my league drafted him the first two years after his draft year because of the uncertainty over whether he would come to North America. I ended up winning the draft lottery the summer before his rookie season, when talk began of him trying to come over. So, I grabbed him with my 1st overall pick. He's the only one of my keepers who I drafted, though. The rest were acquired via trades... sometimes paying through the nose to get the guy I wanted (Lundqvist, Crosby), and other times timing the trade so it happens before they bust out (Giroux, Letang, Yandle). It's obviously not impossible to trade for Crosby... especially now, after two years of shaky health... but his price tag is very, very high. Even higher in the mind of his current owner than in that of the person trying to acquire him.
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15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG | W, GAA, SV%, SHO) Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Roy, Mueller L - Marleau* (C/L), Duchene* (C/L), Doan (L/R), McLeod R - Giroux* (C/R), Kane* (C/R), Grabner, Kassian, Boll D - Yandle*, Letang*, McDonagh, Hamilton, Oduya, Clitsome G - Lundqvist*, Halak, Fasth |
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