Hey guys would like to land Giroux what would be a solid offer that might get him I was gonna package players with my 2013 and 2014 1st rd picks. My team is on the bottom and its a keeper dynasty that drops 4 each year. Lets see your ideas thanks!

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Team Cupper
Fwds-Giroux,Hall,Neal,Gagner,Hartnall,Schenn,Johanson,V oracheck,Tanguay,Cammaleri,Galchuyk,Grandlund,,Set oguchi,Grabovski , Tarasenko

Def -
Letang ,Hedman,Bogosian,Hamilton,
Fowler
Team-
CAR
Edm

Points
Fwds -Def
Points, ppg,shg,gwg
Teams- Wins,otl,so
Def get 2 points for goals

Does the other GM have any needs? That could make this a little easier.

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Ultimate Dynasty League
16 Team Dynasty League H2H: G, A, P, PPP, SHP, +/-, PIM, SOG, W, L, GAA, SvPct, SHO

C: Stamkos, Getzlaf, Carter
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Brown
RW: Iginla, Pavelski, Horton
D: Byfuglien, J.Johnson, Goligoski, Hedman, Hamonic
U: Mueller
G: Schneider, Hiller,
B: E. Johnson, S.Kostitsyn, Neil, Biron, Giguere
IR:
Prospect: Nail Yakupov, Tangradi

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UHL Dynasty St. Louis Blues
...a bad team trying to rebuild...

Not really just has interest in trading him but said it would take a good offer.

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Team Cupper
Fwds-Giroux,Hall,Neal,Gagner,Hartnall,Schenn,Johanson,V oracheck,Tanguay,Cammaleri,Galchuyk,Grandlund,,Set oguchi,Grabovski , Tarasenko

Def -
Letang ,Hedman,Bogosian,Hamilton,
Fowler
Team-
CAR
Edm

Points
Fwds -Def
Points, ppg,shg,gwg
Teams- Wins,otl,so
Def get 2 points for goals

Granlund, Galchenyuk, and the two first rounders?

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Ultimate Dynasty League
16 Team Dynasty League H2H: G, A, P, PPP, SHP, +/-, PIM, SOG, W, L, GAA, SvPct, SHO

C: Stamkos, Getzlaf, Carter
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Brown
RW: Iginla, Pavelski, Horton
D: Byfuglien, J.Johnson, Goligoski, Hedman, Hamonic
U: Mueller
G: Schneider, Hiller,
B: E. Johnson, S.Kostitsyn, Neil, Biron, Giguere
IR:
Prospect: Nail Yakupov, Tangradi

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UHL Dynasty St. Louis Blues
...a bad team trying to rebuild...

Generally after a season like the one Giroux had, you're going to have to overpay, but you have some good pieces to make this deal happen.

As a rule, the biggest piece you give up has to be someone who's upside matches the player you're trading for's downside. So if you figure Giroux's low end value is 80 pts, then you need to pitch him somebody who's likely to roughly that, give or take 5 points. So you're looking for a 75pt guy. So we're talking Eberle, Hall, Landeskog, Eriksson, Duchene or maybe Pacioretty (ordered in terms of where I see their value, top to bottom).
Then you have to pay for the descripency between Giroux and the main piece you're offering. 2 firsts is good, but if you really want to seal this, I would suggest throwing in a prospect and use one of the firsts as a kicker. Then if need be, you can throw in a lower draft pick (2nd or 3rd) if he's really dragging his feet.

My suggestion: Try to move one of Duchene/Eriksson/Landeskog/Pacioretty coupled with Granlund and a 1st. It may feel like an overpayment, but thats the price you pay for top end talent. Way I see it, if you can get an equal or better return on your investment down the line, it was worth it. All about trade value.

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10 Team Roto Keeper League (G,A,PPP,SHP,GWG,+/-,PIM, SOG // W,SAVES,GAA,SV%,SO)
Full Keeper w/ Salary Cap [4C/4LW/4RW/6D/2G/5B, 82 gp per roster spot]

C: Crosby, Getzlaf, Ribeiro, Hodgson
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Eriksson, Van Riemsdyk, Whitney
RW: Gaborik, Stewart, Read, Selanne, Alfredsson
D: Pietrangelo, Yandle, Edler, Wisniewski, E. Johnson, Whitney, Bieksa, Gardiner
G: Lundqvist, Bryzgalov, Schneider

Minor League:
Yakupov, Silfverberg, Bjugstad, Stone, Atkinson, J. Morrow, Palmieri, B. Smith, J. Bernier

id start with Pacioretty, Granlund and a 1st. be prepared to add a bit though.

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10 team Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.

C= crosby,m.koivu,malkin,zajak,grabovski,j.jokinen,
LW= ovechkin,nash,s.gagner,dubinsky
RW= downie,hemsky,callahan,voracek,perry,mueller
D= green,doughty,phaneuf,wisniewski,girardi,karlsson
G= rask,lundqvist,ward,price

FARM=kreider,grachev,petrov,enroth,kuznetsov,ennis ,rundblad,bjugstad,radulov,montoya, adam,t.erixon,cowan,s.elliot,j.faulk,cormier,petro v,orlov,stone,eakin,grigorenko,silfverberg,brodin, atkinson

--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blocks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO

Funny how a lot of suggestions have been referenced as overpayments. I see them all as lowball offers, personally.

For Giroux, I think you should start with what you would offer for Crosby, then dial it back two or three notches. That means at least one of Eberle or Hall must be in the offer... potentially both.

If you're realistic about grabbing Giroux, I would start with Eberle, one from the Duchene/Eriksson/Landeskog/Pacioretty group, and your 1st rounder in 2013 and 2014.

[sigh] I miss hockey.

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15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG | W, GAA, SV%, SHO)
Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie

C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Roy, Mueller
L - Marleau* (C/L), Duchene* (C/L), Doan (L/R), McLeod
R - Giroux* (C/R), Kane* (C/R), Grabner, Kassian, Boll
D - Yandle*, Letang*, McDonagh, Hamilton, Oduya, Clitsome
G - Lundqvist*, Halak, Fasth

If someone offered me this ^^^ for my Giroux, I would laugh and find it hard to even counter. I consider Giroux to be the #4 or 5 after Crosby, Malkin and Stamkos in almost any league.

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10 Team NHL Keeper League (Keep 6)
Points only (F/D 1pt/G 1pt/A, Goalie 2pt/W 3pt/SO)
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalie
(82 game cap at each position)
Bench: 3 Any Position
No IR

F- Giroux, Backstrom, Tavares, Kovalchuk, Getzlaf, Benn, Iginla, M.Koivu, Hartnell, Carter, Cammalleri, Callahan

D- Byfuglien, Green, Boyle, Goligoski, Visnovsky, Wizniewski

G- Rask, Elliott

BN- Brodeur, Saad, Beauchemin

Picks - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17

***2012-2013 ________***
***2011-2012 Runner Up***
***2010-2011 League Champion***

Whatever you do, I wouldn't part with your 2013 1st.

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Dynasty - $100/yr buy-in - YR5 - $90M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO

C - Crosby, Getzlaf, Seguin
LW - Neal, D. Sedin
RW - Perry, Voracek
D - Letang, Chara, Phaneuf, Boyle
Util - Eberle, Hossa, Pavelski, Iginla
G - Rask, Lehtonen

BENCH
Selanne, Backes, Elias, Doan, M. Foligno, Bogosian, Garrison, McDonagh, Gardiner, Faulk, Thomas, Bryzgalov

PROSPECT
Forsberg, Bjugstad, Eller, M. Backlund, Vatanen, R. Murphy, Lack

BACK-TO-BACK Defending Champion.

Obviously with your team you'd want so much more for Giroux... you're not hurting at all lol.

Are the other managers in your league retarded? How do you have 4 of the best 6 players in the league(Crosby/Malkin/Tavares/Giroux), arguably 2 of the best 6 d-men, and the best goalie lol

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16 team roti keeper (yr 5/5, keep 6)
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPG, PPA, SHG, SHA, GWG
W, GAA, SV%, SO
2c, 2lw, 2rw, 4d, 2g, 8bn

C: Stamkos, Backstrom
LW: Sedin, Landeskog, Ott (C), McGinn
RW: Purcell, Brunner, Stewart, Boyes (C), Hornqvist
D: Letang, Byfuglien, Streit, Carlson, Beauchemin, Barrie
G: Ward, Schneider, Ellis