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I agree with you that there is a lot of uncertainty with junior players but when they produce as early as Strome in the quantity that he did he is in pretty elite company in junior hockey. You can talk all you want about how you worry about whether his game will translate, but I don't see what you see that is concerning and let's face it, none of us are scouts. I'm going to rely on stats and trends when it comes to fantasy hockey. Strome might end up busting but recent history says that it is a very small chance that he does. |
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Just for arguments sake, I'd like to list all the OHL players that have put up 100+ points in the last 10 years: 2002-03 Corey Locke Matt Foy Chad LaRose Joey Tenute Kyle Wellwood Jamie Johnson 2003-04 Corey Locke Corey Perry Martin St. Pierre Eric Himelfarb Daniel Sisca 2004-05 Corey Perry Dylan Hunter 2005-06 Rob Schremp Dave Bolland Wojtek Wolski Dylan Hunter Evan McGrath Justin Donati Bryan Little 2006-07 Pat Kane John Tavares Sergei Kostitsyn Tyler Donati Sam Gagner Bryan Little Even Brophey Bobby Ryan Brett McLean 2007-08 Justin Azevedo Brett McLean John Tavares Luca Caputi Steven Stamkos Chris Terry Jack Combs Michael Swift 2008-09 John Tavares 2009-10 Tyler Seguin Taylor Hall 2010-11 and 2011-12 I'm not going to include these, as they are still developing and expecting NHL production from these guys at this points would be a fair comparison. So it is clear, that being an 100+ point OHL player does not translate into being an NHL regular let alone an NHL star. Of the guys listed above, the only guys who you could consider a star are: Corey Perry, Pat Kane, John Tavares, Bobby Ryan, Steven Stamkos, Tyler Seguin and Taylor Hall. The odds are clearly stacked against these guys. Am I saying there is something in STrome's game that will keep him from making the transition? Nope... i don't watch him play so I have nothing to base that on. But I can say that based on the stats above, OHL production is not a definitive indicator of future NHL production.
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What I was pointing out is that putting up 100+ points in their draft eligible season is significant. When a player can at the age of 17/18 put up 100+ points this is a very significant indicator that they will succeed at the NHL level. As you point out, putting up 100+ at age 19 or 20 really isn't all that significant, but I thought we all knew that already... |
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My bad, totally missed the draft eligible year part. Either way, no need for that tone.
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My apologies for the tone if it was too much. I was just surprised you didn't see my argument when I thought it was clear I was talking about draft eligible seasons. Cheers.
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Agreed 100 % with that. I'm always looking at the pts total in draft year. For example, this season in LHJMQ, Duffy and Currie will probably reach 100 pts, at 20 year. Noboby will draft them on their fantasy team tough.
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He'll succeed in the NHL, just not at the level he has in junior. Not the best skater, pretty light, too one-dimensional for my liking. Eerily similar to Tim Connolly and Sam Gagner is definitely another good comparison
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Sure I may be wrong, I've been there before, but this is what my gut tells me
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