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cdubb · #11 11-02-2012, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spec7ral

I have nothing against Manning. He's a HOF and is playing like it this year. I just think this is a bad trade.

I would rather have McGahee and AJ than Turner and Britt. Britt is a huge liability in my eyes and, in the case of Turner, as suspect as Rodgers has been, they are working him back into the game plan. Unreliable as AJ has been so far this season, he is still miles ahead of Britt in terms of talent and situation.

McGahee has put up 9 or more points in all but 2 contests, so he is a consistent producer. Turner's numbers are somewhat similar (one more stinker), but he doesn't have the cupcake schedule that McGahee is coming into.

Cutler and Rivers have nowhere to go but up, and can be used in a rotation for matchups. Peyton is doing great, but I don't see three TDs per game as a realistic bar. There is something to be said for his teammates finally getting up to speed with the audibles and all, but I would be wary of parting with both AJ and McGahee.

Out of McGahee/Matthews/Turner/SJAx/Leshoure in a 2rd+flex I would want McGahee.

Here are those 2 QBs weekly record compared to Manning
- Rivers: 9.6, 15, -0.5, 9.2, 9.9, 0.0, bye, 2.9
- Cutler: 13.9, -5.7, 2.4, 12.9, 16.5, bye, 7.2, -2
- Manning: 15.6, 1.9, 15.3, 23.4, 20.3, bye, 20.5

If you mixed and matched QBs, the absolute BEST you could have done is 70.8 vs Manning's 120. Plus you'd be a psychic that wins millions in Las Vegas betting on NFL.

Upcoming schedules
Rivers - TB, DEN, BAL, CIN, PIT, CAR, NYJ, OAK
Cutler - TEN, HOU, SF, MIN, SEA, MIN, GB, ARI, DET
Manning - CIN, CAR, SD, KC, TB, OAK, BAL, CLE, KC

It's alot easier to pick up a scrub RB/WR (Hillis & Britt 2 yrs ago, D.Murray & L.Robinson last year) that suddenly surprises and gets hot versus a QB.

I would consider the trade based on best players versus each other, not positional
- Manning (120) > McGahee (95)
- Turner (74) = or > A. Johnson (63)
- Cutler (45) = Britt (30)
- CHI def (93) > MIN def (67)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spec7ral

I'm informed by watching football and previous FF experience. I don't look to pundits for my information. If you value his opinion I can't debate that.

I've won exactly 50% of my hockey and football pools (not counting finishing 2nd or 3rd).

This year I autodrafted a NFL team that was projected on yahoo to finish last, but i'm tied for 3rd best record, despite having watched "part" of 1 NFL game this whole year (i'm here in australia for a year where games play at 3 am or during my working hours)

http://profiles.sports.yahoo.com/use...H6M6RXJ54MXGB4

Yet I don't consider myself a fantasy genius/expert.

I'd still listen to the schmuck (Barnwell) who gets paid for a living based on NFL and watches ALL the NFL games each week.

ynotzz · #12 11-02-2012, 04:09 AM

I have to disagree with Spec7ral here...maybe you didnt read the OP good enough? Here is his current squad:

QB: Rivers, Cutler
RB: Mathews, McGahee, S-Jax, Leshoure
WR: A. Johnson, J. Jones, Cobb, Roberts
TE: Gonzalez, Pettigrew
DST: Vikings
K: Walsh

They start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, DST, K

After the trade (with highlighted starters):
QB: Peyton, Rivers
RB: Mathews,Turner, S-Jax/Leshoure (flex)
WR: J. Jones, Cobb, Britt, Roberts
TE: Gonzalez, Pettigrew
DST: Bears
K: Walsh

So the fact is that he probably WONT be starting Britt after the trade, but at the same time Britt has a really high upside, so he could end up being a starter later this year.

Having to start Cobb instead of Andre Johnson doesnt seem like a big drop to me this year. I think I'd actually prefer Cobb. Julio Jones is way ahead of both.

The trade is basically starting

Peyton+Turner+Cobb+Bears
instead of
Rivers+McGahee+Andre+Vikings

I DEFINITELY prefer the first one.

Spec7ral · #13 11-05-2012, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdubb

Here are those 2 QBs weekly record compared to Manning
- Rivers: 9.6, 15, -0.5, 9.2, 9.9, 0.0, bye, 2.9
- Cutler: 13.9, -5.7, 2.4, 12.9, 16.5, bye, 7.2, -2
- Manning: 15.6, 1.9, 15.3, 23.4, 20.3, bye, 20.5

If you mixed and matched QBs, the absolute BEST you could have done is 70.8 vs Manning's 120. Plus you'd be a psychic that wins millions in Las Vegas betting on NFL.

Upcoming schedules
Rivers - TB, DEN, BAL, CIN, PIT, CAR, NYJ, OAK
Cutler - TEN, HOU, SF, MIN, SEA, MIN, GB, ARI, DET
Manning - CIN, CAR, SD, KC, TB, OAK, BAL, CLE, KC

It's alot easier to pick up a scrub RB/WR (Hillis & Britt 2 yrs ago, D.Murray & L.Robinson last year) that suddenly surprises and gets hot versus a QB.

I would consider the trade based on best players versus each other, not positional
- Manning (120) > McGahee (95)
- Turner (74) = or > A. Johnson (63)
- Cutler (45) = Britt (30)
- CHI def (93) > MIN def (67)

I've won exactly 50% of my hockey and football pools (not counting finishing 2nd or 3rd).

This year I autodrafted a NFL team that was projected on yahoo to finish last, but i'm tied for 3rd best record, despite having watched "part" of 1 NFL game this whole year (i'm here in australia for a year where games play at 3 am or during my working hours)

http://profiles.sports.yahoo.com/use...H6M6RXJ54MXGB4

Yet I don't consider myself a fantasy genius/expert.

I'd still listen to the schmuck (Barnwell) who gets paid for a living based on NFL and watches ALL the NFL games each week.

If you're in Australia that explains it. Thanks for the input.

Spec7ral · #14 11-05-2012, 11:30 AM

20/20 hindsight this deal may have been a good idea, if only for the Bears DST and what they did this weekend.

cdubb · #15 11-05-2012, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spec7ral

If you're in Australia that explains it. Thanks for the input.

Just moved here this July. Found out unlike NFL watch shows games at 3 am and 6 am, NBA games require a pay package.

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