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Old 10-04-2012, 01:13 PM
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Steve, great analysis on your blog. As the guy who made the head scratching Johan Hedberg pick, I thought I'd explain. It wasn't a pick I was excited to make, and the only reason I made it was because I had Brodeur, against my better judgment. I didn't want Marty, but as goalies came off the board he seemed to be my best option for my second tender.

When it came time to pick my third goalie, there were a bunch of mediocre choices on the board. I had a couple of them ranked above Hedberg, most notably Gustavsson, but as I was feeling uneasy about Marty, I preferred the security of getting his partner over the other options that were out there.

Overall, my goaltending didn't go according to plan at all - though I think a lot of guys can say that. I really wanted one of Lundqvist, Quick, Rinne or Rask with the 11th pick. Once they were all taken, I had another 6 goalies lumped close together, so I waited till round 2 to get one of them. Price was actually one of the lowest ranked guys in that cluster for me, but he was the only one left when it got to me. Crazy run!
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Pengwin - nice break down, very fair.

I had to roll the dice on some of my offensive forwards, so lots of potential fluctuation there. I think the Isles take another step forward, so if Nabokov stays healthy then I have three Top 15 goalies, giving me a position of strength to trade from and solidify another area.

I wanted Tim Thomas with my last pick. Bouchard was my backup plan. Because if Thomas doesn't come back, I can use the waiver wire to grab Bouchard or someone else. That was the thinking, anyway.
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Steve - nice write up and I agree with your logic. Karlsson was quite literally 10th on my list, behind four goalies.

All four goalies were taken, plus six big forwards. I didn't want to be stuck with Karlsson, but I was. Do I think he'll regress? Of course I do. Will that regression be 10 points or more? No way. He'll still beat all defensemen by 10 points. If healthy, Green and Letang will get close to 70. Karlsson also is a safe 80-game pick.

You disagree with my pick. I disagree with my pick too. But nobody can disagree with the fact that I didn't have a choice. I saw the goalies left:
Fleury, Kipper, Bryzgalov, Ward, Smith. I next picked eight spots away. My preference was actually Bryzgalov, then Ward, then Fleury, then Kipper. But since the Big 4 were gone, frankly I didn't give a damn which one of these five I got.

So I had to decide. Karlsson wasn't getting back to me. But one of those five will. So I made the call - I got Karlsson and I got one of the five. And because Kipper wasn't someone who overly made me feel warm inside, I made certain to pick up two other starters with 32 win upside and 25 win likelihood.

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The picks that were "stolen" within four spots of when I would pick.

Steve -

Rinne
Brown
Pacioretty
Thomas


Glen -
Zubrus


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Wideman
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And this was 10 picks ahead of me late in the draft, but I was disappointed when Lord of the Rinks took Gagner on me. I really did think he would slip. He lasted 16 rounds, why not another 10 picks?
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Laidlaw - Heatley hater lol.

My one pick I'd like to take back: khudobin vs. Vermette. Though, like mentioned, trade block includes depth g for a rw.

Great breakdowns thus far and thanks for the support P7!
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Was this on "auto-draft" or what fella's??

2. (30) Jaroslav Halak (StL - G)
3. (35) Brian Elliott (StL - G)
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Was this on "auto-draft" or what fella's??

2. (30) Jaroslav Halak (StL - G)
3. (35) Brian Elliott (StL - G)
This was going on all night. Matt Hackett might as well have been picked in the top 10.
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Laidlaw - Heatley hater lol.

My one pick I'd like to take back: khudobin vs. Vermette. Though, like mentioned, trade block includes depth g for a rw.

Great breakdowns thus far and thanks for the support P7!
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Steve, great analysis on your blog. As the guy who made the head scratching Johan Hedberg pick, I thought I'd explain. It wasn't a pick I was excited to make, and the only reason I made it was because I had Brodeur, against my better judgment. I didn't want Marty, but as goalies came off the board he seemed to be my best option for my second tender.

When it came time to pick my third goalie, there were a bunch of mediocre choices on the board. I had a couple of them ranked above Hedberg, most notably Gustavsson, but as I was feeling uneasy about Marty, I preferred the security of getting his partner over the other options that were out there.

Overall, my goaltending didn't go according to plan at all - though I think a lot of guys can say that. I really wanted one of Lundqvist, Quick, Rinne or Rask with the 11th pick. Once they were all taken, I had another 6 goalies lumped close together, so I waited till round 2 to get one of them. Price was actually one of the lowest ranked guys in that cluster for me, but he was the only one left when it got to me. Crazy run!
Understandable, you have to defend your turf. I still don't like the pick but I totally get where you are coming from.
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Steve - nice write up and I agree with your logic. Karlsson was quite literally 10th on my list, behind four goalies.

All four goalies were taken, plus six big forwards. I didn't want to be stuck with Karlsson, but I was. Do I think he'll regress? Of course I do. Will that regression be 10 points or more? No way. He'll still beat all defensemen by 10 points. If healthy, Green and Letang will get close to 70. Karlsson also is a safe 80-game pick.

You disagree with my pick. I disagree with my pick too. But nobody can disagree with the fact that I didn't have a choice. I saw the goalies left:
Fleury, Kipper, Bryzgalov, Ward, Smith. I next picked eight spots away. My preference was actually Bryzgalov, then Ward, then Fleury, then Kipper. But since the Big 4 were gone, frankly I didn't give a damn which one of these five I got.

So I had to decide. Karlsson wasn't getting back to me. But one of those five will. So I made the call - I got Karlsson and I got one of the five. And because Kipper wasn't someone who overly made me feel warm inside, I made certain to pick up two other starters with 32 win upside and 25 win likelihood.

Don't be hard on me, I knew what I was doing!
Well if you've got Kipper in that second tier group of yours then your process makes sense. I may not agree with Kipper being a second tier guy but that's another argument. The fact that Fleury, another guy you have ranked in the second tier also fell to your pick in the second tells me that you were pretty safe in making that Karlsson pick.
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