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Old 01-26-2013, 05:53 AM
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i took over a crappy team end of last season so i'm forced to rebuild. my only real asset is Tavares. I dont really wanna lose him but here is the trade that was preposed to me and keep in mind its a keeper pool; going out: Tavares, Kunitz, Burrows, Jagr and Giordano.. coming back: Kadri, Kuznetzov, Morgan Rielly, Derrick Pouliot, 2 first rounds and one second round pick in this year's draft. I'd appreciate anyone's advice as i havent yet made a trade this big.. thanks dobbers
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i took over a crappy team end of last season so i'm forced to rebuild. my only real asset is Tavares. I dont really wanna lose him but here is the trade that was preposed to me and keep in mind its a keeper pool; going out: Tavares, Kunitz, Burrows, Jagr and Giordano.. coming back: Kadri, Kuznetzov, Morgan Rielly, Derrick Pouliot, 2 first rounds and one second round pick in this year's draft. I'd appreciate anyone's advice as i havent yet made a trade this big.. thanks dobbers
please no no no - don't accept that deal

unless the league stats count 5x points for rookies, you are losing big time.

Tavares is a potential top 5 scorer for the next several years.

Kuznetzov probably best prospect, but may stay in KHL.

if you are rebuilding, don't trade your one and only superstar.

if you can trade older players like Jagr, for younger players like Reilly thats fine.

lets say somehow that team finishes last (despite having Tavares) or most likely you finish last, and get 1st overall. you'll draft Mackinnon, hoping he turns out like tavares.

i took over a last place team in one league, and i made some deals getting players like Couture, Letang, Lucic trading some older guys like Hartnell, Streit, etc.

p.s. this should be posted in keeper trade thread
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i wouldnt trade tavares by himself for all of that

you have tavares as the centerpiece of your rebuild you dont send him out in a rebuild

there are situations where you do deal tavares however what comes back must be much better than what you listed
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No don't do it.
Tavares is young and will be part of your rebuild.
This will cripple your team as none of the guys coming back could become Tavares-Like player for you.
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No don't do it.
Tavares is young and will be part of your rebuild.
This will cripple your team as none of the guys coming back could become Tavares-Like player for you.
My "no, no, no" probably wasn't strong enough of a response, I like the word "cripple" better.

Is this your first keeper, who offered the trade? The GM is literally trying to rape you in the butt with this offer. I hope it's not a money league. Rebuilding does not mean trading your best player (necessarily) for picks/prospects. Maybe stick to one year pools, so you have a chance each year to compete.

Anyway, useful to post your roster, and league categories.
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It's all about baby steps with the rebuid, piece by piece.
Agreed with Tavares, Don't! Anyone you trade for, you'll hope to get someone back who might be as good. Likely, that doesn't happen.
Like its mentioned, start by shipping out your older guys for young guns and solid picks. Once you've ridden yourself of the Jagr's of the world and have a solid base, start moving the other way and using the pieces you've aquired to start adding better pieces. I know it's vague and general advice, but that the general architect for a rebuild that I've always use and it generally has worked out pretty well. I'm in the middle of doing the same thing right now.
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