What do you guys think of Murphy going forward? I wasn't too impressed with his play at the WJ's.

He's a lot like Ryan Ellis, struggles defensively but is a stud offensively from the back end. Ellis seemed to have a much better WJ's though when he played.

Would you look to move him for another prospect...say Kuznetsov?

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F's-Ovie, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Skinner, Voracek, Hossa, Semin, Ryan, Vinny, Conacher, Stastny, Granlund, Kuznetsov, Bjugstad, Tarasenko, Spooner

D-Byfuglien, Subban, Campbell, Streit, Carlson, Burns, Murphy, Brodin

G-Miller, Bryzgalov,Holtby, Gibson, Mrazek, Enroth

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I wouldn't. I can't stand the guy. I agree with the Ryan Ellis comparison (though I like Ellis better) and I just can't decide if he makes it as an NHL'er. Great offensive skills but man can he look atrocious in his own end. I think he's a long term project, albeit with great reward if he makes it.

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RW: P. Kane, Stewart
LW: Semin, Couture
D: Pietrangelo, Hamhuis, Subban, Carlson
G: Lundqvist, Price
UTIL: Plekanec, Ennis, Perron, D. Brown


Farm
D: B. Smith, Morrow
F: Brassard, Williams, Niederreiter, Little, Okposo, Whitney, Nyquist, Kesler
G: S. Mason, Ward

Prospect:
F - Z. Kassian, Spooner, Kuznetsov, Tatar, Teravainen, Stone, Connolly
D - Matt Dumba

IMO he just had a bad WJC. He will still be a good fantasy defenesemen eventually. Murphy was the most NHL ready of his draft class D IMO he was never the guy with the highest upside. Columbus drafted him because he is ready now and doesn't need as much development and their development historically stinks.

If I could get Kuznetzov for Murphy I would do it in a heart beat

Most ready D in his draft class? Adam Larsson?

Carolina drafted him also

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D-Byfuglien, Subban, Campbell, Streit, Carlson, Burns, Murphy, Brodin

G-Miller, Bryzgalov,Holtby, Gibson, Mrazek, Enroth

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Me thinks you're thinking Ryan Murray. Big difference.

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LW: Semin, Couture
D: Pietrangelo, Hamhuis, Subban, Carlson
G: Lundqvist, Price
UTIL: Plekanec, Ennis, Perron, D. Brown


Farm
D: B. Smith, Morrow
F: Brassard, Williams, Niederreiter, Little, Okposo, Whitney, Nyquist, Kesler
G: S. Mason, Ward

Prospect:
F - Z. Kassian, Spooner, Kuznetsov, Tatar, Teravainen, Stone, Connolly
D - Matt Dumba

easy comparable: Marc-Andre Bergeron

if he makes the show, it will be on a non-contending team as an offensive spe******t.

I like the way this guy is thinking, Kuznetsov for Murphy is a sweet deal!

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Wow you have all it wrong IMO. Murphy had the highest upside of his draft class, but he was probably the less NHL-ready...

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If you can get legit value for the guy I'd cut bait. I do not see a player anywhere near ready for NHL action. There's little room in the NHL for small offensive defencemen who are highly suspect defensively. His OHL production is a bit of an enigma (possibly injury related) but I hate to see a players point-per-game production drop in three consecutive junior campaigns (although he did light it up in the playoffs last year).

Give him 2-3 years in the AHL and we'll know if he can really hack it with the big boys...until then I'm calling him a long term project with decent to good upside.

Look at it this way, Ryan Ellis was drafted two years before Murphy, is a better player and has still only played 32 NHL games.

Murphy's defense is fairly solid at the OHL level, but obviously he still has a lot of work to do as the opposing talent gets better. He's a good player to hold if you can afford to, as he definitely has the talent to be a big scorer on defense but if you need the spot or you can get a good return on him by all means shuttle him off. Enticing upside but pretty longshot of actually hitting it or even making the NHL in a substantial way.

If you can swap him for Kuznetsov, I'd probably do it.

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