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Old 12-01-2012, 05:14 PM
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The offer I just received is Zetterberg, Franzen, and Keith for Malkin and Barberio
Now, I'm sure Barberio is very negotiable anyway, but my roster is full, so to take those 3 players I would have to ditch 2 anyway. I'd be more likely to send out Palmieri and Khudobin. I obviuosly lack depth at all positions, so it certainly fills a need. But, is that even fair value for Malkin? He could easily finish 40 points up on Zetterberg, and Im not sure if Keith and Franzen make that up on my bottom guys. It does give me 3 guys with lots of +- and SOG. I'll probably counter but who should I target?

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I'd really like to change Zett out for Tavares, but I doubt he's buying that. I could probably shore up my back up G with a Hiller-Nabby switch. Who else should I target? Is Couture a big enough improvement on Franzen or Zett? How about Landeskog?
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:19 PM
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IMO dealing Malkin to fill depth positions is short-sighted. Use the rest of your assets to improve your roster.
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IMO dealing Malkin to fill depth positions is short-sighted. Use the rest of your assets to improve your roster.
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but I also think this is an interesting concern pertaining to the OP. Should the OP even be considering trading Malkin and if so what should be the goals?

In any trade if you can gain more than what you lose, or deal from a position of strength and fill a weakness without losing more than what you would gain isn't it worth it?

Also, if a trade is considered equal from your perspective, i.e. in a typical week you think your stats wouldn't change in any category if you did the trade, would it be better to have those stats come from one elite producer or multiple players? Wouldn't it be less risky from multiple players?

Idk, just some thoughts I had as I read eric's reply. Maybe someone could shed some light on this to determine if the OP should even be dealing Malkin in the first place.
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Unless the word "for" is between trading and Malkin, I wouldn't advise to do it.
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Unless the word "for" is between trading and Malkin, I wouldn't advise to do it.
Well and politely said Angus. My original thought was a little harsher - "You want to trade who for what??????? Have you lost your mind?" Is this some kind of move to reduce your contract values, because if that isn't a factor I just don't see how you are getting adequate value for such a stud when you have such a limited weekly starting roster.
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We are still going back and fourth. He wants to do it without Tavares and I'm not sure that's possible. But a piece that comes into play is Weber. I threw out Zetterberg, Franzen, Weber, Couture, Hiller and Harmonic as what he would have to pay. In other words if no bog scorer is coming back ,I'm building a whole team out of the deal. He has several options of who he gets back on top of Malkin, but none of my key roster players (Lucic, Kessel, Filppula, Quick) or my top prospects (Faulk, Kreider, Brunner, Barberio). Although I think he really likes Barberio. Going by projections it's a decent gain over the coarse of a full year, and certainly gives me the depth to challenge now. But, is it still fair value if the only top name I get back is at D?
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my latest counter:
Malkin, Barberio, Khudobin, Palmieri
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Tavares, Keith, Hiller, Couture
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I think that's a good counter.

If it helps I flipped my Malkin and Pavlec for Ericsson, Couture, Halak, and Granlund
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The offer I just received is Zetterberg, Franzen, and Keith for Malkin and Barberio
Now, I'm sure Barberio is very negotiable anyway, but my roster is full, so to take those 3 players I would have to ditch 2 anyway. I'd be more likely to send out Palmieri and Khudobin. I obviuosly lack depth at all positions, so it certainly fills a need. But, is that even fair value for Malkin? He could easily finish 40 points up on Zetterberg, and Im not sure if Keith and Franzen make that up on my bottom guys. It does give me 3 guys with lots of +- and SOG. I'll probably counter but who should I target?

His Team
C-Tavares,Zetterberg(dual),Kesler,Couture,
W-Franzen, Nash, Ovechkin(untouchable), Perry, Clarkson
D- Burns, Harmonic, Keith,Weber, Gonchar,McQuade
G-Lundqvist, Hiller
Minor eligable-Rattie, Erixon,Strome, Landeskog, Holtby.

I'd really like to change Zett out for Tavares, but I doubt he's buying that. I could probably shore up my back up G with a Hiller-Nabby switch. Who else should I target? Is Couture a big enough improvement on Franzen or Zett? How about Landeskog?
That is gross underpayment for Malkin. Do not do it.

As a starting point, I would need Tavares+. Think Tavares + Perry for Malkin + something small would be good for you.

If they don't want to pay full price, put the same "untouchable" tag on Malkin that Ovechkin has.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:30 PM
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No way I'd deal Malkin for that.

I would do Lundqvist+Couture for Malkin+Nabokov.
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